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Old 06-28-2011, 01:14 PM   #21
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Wouldn't it just be cheaper to buy a Raptor than buy a Taco and mod it?

I'd rather have my Tacoma built the way that I want it, rather than something that came factory with all the toys.
Hope you're joking...a raptor is a $60000 Ford f150 with king shocks. No saf and very big
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Hope you're joking...a raptor is a $60000 Ford f150 with king shocks. No saf and very big
I saw a used 2010 for 40000.
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Old 06-28-2011, 06:55 PM   #24
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I saw a used 2010 for 40000.
Ouch! IMHO still way too much for what it is
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Old 06-28-2011, 06:58 PM   #25
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Ouch! IMHO still way too much for what it is
True!!! I was just saying.
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Gotta look good man. Gotta look good.

The real reason is I don't trust Chrysler products as far as I can spit.
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Old 06-28-2011, 09:05 PM   #27
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True!!! I was just saying.
QFT! You sir help my argument greatly, and i thank you
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Old 06-28-2011, 09:40 PM   #29
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dude i love my toyota as well, but the power wagons are just pure bad ass there is no arguing that really. i would keep your truck the way it is its the nicest 4 banger on her besides tacovendors and mine just buy an old toyota trail rig that some one else pulled out hair over doing an sas .
they are badass. however the parademic i work with has one and the 11-13mpg he sees is not badass. 13mpg regular driving. 11mpg pulling a 7500lb 31ft camper.
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Old 06-28-2011, 09:42 PM   #30
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QFT! You sir help my argument greatly, and i thank you
Just trying to help!!
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Old 06-28-2011, 09:49 PM   #31
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Ive had 3 jeeps and 2 tacomas. I much prefer to drive the tacoma on the highway. Offhighway it will take me 95% of they places I want to go.

The jeeps took me that other 5% of places.

If you had a sliding scale with extreme wheeling on one end and grocery getter on the other, the jeep will be on the extreme end.

The Tacoma does most everything pretty darn well but the jeep is a specialist. Not the most comfortable thing to drive expecially for any distance but once you get it off the pavement it is a pure joy.

As far as reliability the pages of this forum are littered with unreliability. Sometimes you get a gem and sometimes you get a lemon.

I bought the Tacoma because I like to travel and offroad and camp, it does it all the jeep not as great for travel. Not as great for camping due to limited storage capacity.
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they are badass. however the parademic i work with has one and the 11-13mpg he sees is not badass. 13mpg regular driving. 11mpg pulling a 7500lb 31ft camper.
haha i never said it was good on gas i just said it was bad ass and it is the power wagon is sexy as fuck!

i wanted something that was good on gas and with a few grand into it could go pretty much any where the big ones go and my reg cab can do that now. i would just find an old toyota that some hilbilly already sas'd and fixer up into a trail monster.

i saw a guy at the shop that installed my lift today and he had a 4 runner that was a beast those trucks helped forge a serious rep for toyota i know thats why i bought one. those old stories about 280 on the odometer and its a full service trail rig and daily driver lol.
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As far as reliability the pages of this forum are littered with unreliability. Sometimes you get a gem and sometimes you get a lemon.
A common misconception. This forum is littered with problems because people not having any problems rarely make their way to internet forums. On here, you see a disproportionately large number of the folks with issues.

Statistically valid random samples, like the stuff in Consumer Reports and JD Power, shows you how bad Chrysler products have it in terms of long term reliability compared to Toyota. Toyota isn't what it used to be, but it's still not as bad as the domestics.
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Old 06-29-2011, 04:33 AM   #34
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A common misconception. This forum is littered with problems because people not having any problems rarely make their way to internet forums. On here, you see a disproportionately large number of the folks with issues.

Statistically valid random samples, like the stuff in Consumer Reports and JD Power, shows you have bad Chrysler products have it in terms of long term reliability compared to Toyota. Toyota isn't what it used to be, but it's still not as bad as the domestics.
truth. chrysler products love to catch fire/explode/fall to pieces/roll/loose major components etc.
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toyota products like to run for extended periods of time without major malfunction.
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Ive had 3 jeeps and 2 tacomas. I much prefer to drive the tacoma on the highway. Offhighway it will take me 95% of they places I want to go.

The jeeps took me that other 5% of places.

If you had a sliding scale with extreme wheeling on one end and grocery getter on the other, the jeep will be on the extreme end.

The Tacoma does most everything pretty darn well but the jeep is a specialist. Not the most comfortable thing to drive expecially for any distance but once you get it off the pavement it is a pure joy.

As far as reliability the pages of this forum are littered with unreliability. Sometimes you get a gem and sometimes you get a lemon.

I bought the Tacoma because I like to travel and offroad and camp, it does it all the jeep not as great for travel. Not as great for camping due to limited storage capacity.
x2 plus since your going to be wheeling with it in what ever enviroment, your going to break stuff often, and the fact that most junk yards a littered with cherokees and powerwagons not so much w/ wranglers, is a huge plus and im sure if you look over craigslist, you can find a decked out powerwagon with more geared towards what you want for way less than a toyota with half as much done, and as far as the its better to build than buy i 100% agree but theres always room to build more
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I'm buying a 2005 prerunner Friday to drive and tow my badass jeep to and from the trail. Gotta keep them miles off of my MTR/K's
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Base model Jeeps are not worth it. Even after you choose the factory options, that include better axles, lockers front and rear, etc, there are still parts of the Jeep you will not be happy with. For example, the new Jeeps are powered by the Chrysler mini Van engine.

The Jeep guys are always upgrading their parts, because that is what we do in this hobby. You are not better off with a Jeep, just like the Jeep guys are not better off with a Toyota.
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Most here are brand loyal. Personally I would rather have a Jeep for serious wheeling.
I agree with a modded jeep with a V8 swap and 1ton drive train. Less body to wreck.who needs doors top or windshield??
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85 4runner!!!. check out http://board.marlincrawler.com/ they have tons of crawlers already built and ready to hit the trail for way cheaper and less hassle then it would be to modify your current truck.

I picked up an 85 runner last year - came locked front and rear, 37's, marlin crawler box, premier power welder, headers and exhaust, winch, rock lights.. 168,000 miles. Only thing I did was replace the leafs with a 6" leaf kit. all for around 5k. Took it on rubicon, fordyce, deer valley and others and still havent had any problems with it.

You could easily dump way more than 5k into your taco to sas. Get a truck already built and keep your taco for more moderate wheeling. best of both worlds.
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