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Solid Axle Swap BS Thread

Discussion in 'Solid Axle Suspension' started by Supra TT, Feb 20, 2012.

  1. Aug 16, 2013 at 7:09 AM
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    Yah I'm having a hard time trying not to convince my self it's necessary
     
  2. Aug 16, 2013 at 8:54 AM
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  4. Aug 16, 2013 at 9:51 AM
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    So I might be getting a decent job soon and I might SAS and pick up another DD if I get it. If I never plan to go bigger than 37's would a 44/9 combo be a good choice? Also is it really that much harder to link it? Leafs would be simpler and cheaper but if it's not my dd I could take the extra time to do it right.
     
  5. Aug 16, 2013 at 11:46 AM
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    I run 37s on my truck with the D44/9 combo... If you ask anyone that I wheel with, I beat the shit out of it, But then again, it's built all chromo... It's not "harder" to link the truck, it's more time consuming. I would link the front and leave the leaf springs in the rear.

    In just the D44 alone, I have over $3k worth of parts. So you may want to look at what it costs to build the same D60... A completely built D44 is still not as strong as a STOCK D60... you can shave the D60 and get better clearance too.
     
  6. Aug 16, 2013 at 12:04 PM
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    I don't plan on beating the hell out of it (right now). My goals if I do it would be to maintain streetability and to have it be reliable. At least nothing would break with 60's on 37's though and all I would have to do to the axles is rebuild, regear, flat top knuckles, and hi steer instead of going full chromo. Also did you have to go hydro with 37's or did you just do it to make things easier? I may just look the 60's since even though I don't plan on it, I would always have the option to go bigger. I'd hate to go 44/9's and then want to go tons later, no offense ;)
     
  7. Aug 16, 2013 at 12:36 PM
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    I went hydro because my original setup was fubar. So I just went with the next best thing. :D

    If you don't plan on beating on it, leave it IFS until you cannot further benifit your wheeling. Get some 35's and get some lockers and wheel. SFA is spendy. :D
     
  8. Aug 16, 2013 at 12:58 PM
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  9. Aug 16, 2013 at 1:05 PM
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    Ha yeah I know but I really enjoy the building of everything which is one of the reasons I want to sas. The possibility of getting this good job is why I was considering it. I may just stick with IFS for a while and copy Slodghetto since I'm halfway done with his rear setup anyways haha. Then save the tons for more fun down the road.
     
  10. Aug 16, 2013 at 2:15 PM
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    If you do by way of Slodgetto, make sure you have many spare CVs and manual hubs :D just an FYI. He had my old CVs when he broke the CV and the hub at the same time on Z Turn on the Moab Rim Trail.
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  11. Aug 16, 2013 at 2:18 PM
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  12. Aug 16, 2013 at 2:40 PM
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    Haha nice. Neither one of those are too bad to replace. On 37's though something's gotta give.. and I'd rather it be cv's and hubs than r&p and spiders
     
  13. Aug 16, 2013 at 7:06 PM
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    It's a perfectly fine choice for what you say you'll be doing with it. I agree with Supra - 3link the front and leaf the rear. Linking is EXPENSIVE. Look up the cost of tubing, heims, bungs, joints, rod ends, etc. Then you have the welding and fabbing the brackets, or you could buy brackets... which are expensive.

    As Supra said, with building just the front axle (a dana 44), you'll be at least $3k into it. If it's a DD, definitely go with a selectable locker so you won't be chewing up tires... yup they're around $1k a piece. Then go pay someone for install, unless you know how to setup ARB's and gears correctly.

    I say run stock axles til you start breaking them. After two... prob grab some chromos and start upgrading.

    Figure building a D44 and a 9" is around $6k-7k (w/ selectable lockers f/r)... tons done right? probably around $9k.... +. That's just for axles.

    I went with a HP Dana44 and a 9" because I bought them as a package deal from a friend already built who switched to tons. This brought me right up to speed with starting the build. Mine is a DD, this is my first SAS and holy fuck it's expensive. BUT, it's been a ton of fun and a great learning experience. It opens up a whole new can of worms.

    Decide whether you want tons or not, because if you want to switch to tons later on... everything is going to be different and you'll basically be starting all over.

    You'll read a lot of people saying, "no way I can do it all for $5k." ..... build your truck and let me know how much it costs in the end. I've tallied up my costs and I don't even want to look at the total.

    Also, if you're going to be running 60's, you'll want to be running at least a 39.5 for clearance.

    Food for thought :notsure:
     
  14. Aug 16, 2013 at 7:48 PM
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    Made some progress. All lowers are in and the front upper is in. Rear upper goes in Monday then we're onto the coilover towers...
    Don't mind the front upper in the pic... it wasn't done when I took the pic.

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  15. Aug 16, 2013 at 8:32 PM
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    FWIW, I built my 1 tons for about $5k. That includes everything: ARB's, 5.38 gears, armor, steering, replacement parts like spindle bushings, bearings, brakes etc.

    The leaf sprung Waggy D44 axle swap I did on my last truck was about 6k total but that was with Lockrite lockers front and rear, 4.88's and basic stuff to get it driveable (it was chopped on Saturday and drove to In-N-Out on Sunday evening :D ) Leaf springs are way easier and far less expensive! My build total will be around 10k when this truck is done, that's with links up front, ORI struts and Trail Ready Beadlocks.

    I would say everything depends on what your use is for the truck. If you want a more streetable truck, and don't wheel too hard, go D44. If you plan to wheel harder and see yourself going bigger and better later down the road, go 1 tons. There are people that have 37's on a D44 and some have 37's on 1 ton axles so tire size isn't really a good indicator to go by but more so your intent for the vehicle.
     
  16. Aug 16, 2013 at 8:35 PM
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    Luckyyyy! That's pretty cheap. You setup your ARB and gears yourself?
     
  17. Aug 16, 2013 at 8:55 PM
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    I got REALLY lucky browsing Pirate classifieds early in the morning and found a guy selling the exact lockers I needed for 5.38 thick gears front and rear (14 bolt and Ford D60) for basically 2-for-1 deal. I had to jump on them! Paying a buddy to help me set everything up. We've got the D60 done so far, dropping the 14 bolt off this weekend :D I actually sold the 35 spline Warn Premiums I had today, buying the Yukon Hardcore hubs so that will add a little more to the cost haha
     
  18. Aug 17, 2013 at 7:34 AM
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    Was reading around on TTORA and came upon this thread... 5.29's for 37's!!! So much for listening to the pros on TTORA :rolleyes: :p
     
  19. Aug 17, 2013 at 2:00 PM
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    So this is my first time posting in this section...

    I work at Rebel Off Road, and with that comes day after day of ridicule for having an IFS, and having to stand on the sidelines while the guys with their Dana 60s and 70s JK's sitting on 40" tires and 3 inches of lift have all the fun.

    So all I can say as of now is that this is going to change very soon (by the end of the year). I'll keep you guys posted. :thumbsup:
     
  20. Aug 18, 2013 at 3:20 AM
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