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Old 02-28-2013, 10:08 AM   #1
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Best axle for SAS????

Ive found a Dana 30 setup with arb locker and 4.88's that would match my current gearing for only 900. Its currently on a jeep so im thinking that would cause problems width wise but wondering whats the best axle to go with in the front.
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no...

D44 for up to ~37's safely

D60 for everything else.

There are other options too that Im not well versed in so do some research. And by some I mean A LOT!
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highly recommend against a D30 for a SAS on a 2nd gen.....



there's all kinds of components that go into this to determine what setup is ideal. first, you need to decide what size tires you want to run and how you are intending to use this truck....how high you want to be lifted to accommodate for everything also. there's first. 2ndly, you WILL spend upwards of $10k+ doing the swap w/fabrication and labour. research research research
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OH and you'd snap that D30 like a twig on any serious trail, that's why the rubicons come with a D44 up front, even Jeep knows the D30 sucks.
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I wouldn't bother with a Dana 30. If you are going to dump a ton of money into a SAS, get a stronger axle than that.
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OH and you'd snap that D30 like a twig on any serious trail, that's why the rubicons come with a D44 up front, even Jeep knows the D30 sucks.
D30 is fine if you don't run bigger than 32-33" tires. and even then if you run 33s I'd recommend chromo axle shafts. All comes down tho to what you're going to use the vehicle for tho...
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D30 is fine if you don't run bigger than 32-33" tires. and even then if you run 33s I'd recommend chromo axle shafts. All comes down tho to what you're going to use the vehicle for tho...
I only say that because let's be honest, who's going to swap a tacoma to run freaking 33's
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I only say that because let's be honest, who's going to swap a tacoma to run freaking 33's
Oh I know. Just figured I'd throw it in there.
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so definately not Dana 30 lol.

Looking to maybe running a 40" tire, truck will see a lil offroading but nothing very aggressive, ive had 37's on my ifs and played around a lil but now its time for some big boy sh*t and doing my homework.

So looking like ill try and find a Dana 44 for the front, getting coils from polyperformance, hydrolic steering, and fab rest as we go.

Just SAS'd a 00' durango about 2 weeks ago and that thing turned out beautifully.
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I'd recommend a 60 for the front with chromo axle shafts for 40s. Gives you plenty of room if you want to move up (you'll want to). Gears and lockers. For cheap and easy with plenty of performance, I'd do leafs up front. Then got to think of a rear axle. Ford 8.8 or 9 would be good. Or 14 bolt if you want to go big...

Honestly though, unless you're prepared to drop 15k, I would not recommend doing a SFAC on something that only sees "a lil offroading but nothing very aggressive". I also would not recommend doing it to your DD. and like I said, with hydro and everything you want, definitely expect to spend 10-15k on the project, if not more.
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yea that a whole lot of money lol. on the durango with getting axles from junk yard, nickel and diming here an there all in all we had a total of 6k in it by the time was said and done.

reason asked about the 30 was saw one for sale around here for 900. by the time got the rest of all parts figured i couldve been about the 6k range
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yea that a whole lot of money lol. on the durango with getting axles from junk yard, nickel and diming here an there all in all we had a total of 6k in it by the time was said and done.

reason asked about the 30 was saw one for sale around here for 900. by the time got the rest of all parts figured i couldve been about the 6k range
Are you doing the fab work yourself?
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Um. D60 or dont bother. Check my sig for a link to my build. Skip the first shitload of pages and get to the SAS stuff.

Kingpin>Ball joints

I am at $2500 building the front axle alone. High pinon kingpin, 4.56 gears, spartan locker, all new bearings seals, shaved housing, 35 spline chromo inners and outers, 35 spline warn hubs. And I got some swingin deals.

And screw the arb up front...thats why you have hubs. Unlock for street driving.

If you're gonna wheel it actually, do it right the first time. 40's wont last on anything but 35 spline D60 :2cents:
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yea me and my buddy whos done fabbing on buggy's and other crawlers is helping me do it when i get all the parts.

Cost is just helping wire his shed and help out with some ranching
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Um. D60 or dont bother. Check my sig for a link to my build. Skip the first shitload of pages and get to the SAS stuff.

Kingpin>Ball joints

I am at $2500 building the front axle alone. High pinon kingpin, 4.56 gears, spartan locker, all new bearings seals, shaved housing, 35 spline chromo inners and outers, 35 spline warn hubs. And I got some swingin deals.

And screw the arb up front...thats why you have hubs. Unlock for street driving.

If you're gonna wheel it actually, do it right the first time. 40's wont last on anything but 35 spline D60 :2cents:
thanks for the heads up. Ill check out the link also.
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so definately not Dana 30 lol.

Looking to maybe running a 40" tire, truck will see a lil offroading but nothing very aggressive, ive had 37's on my ifs and played around a lil but now its time for some big boy sh*t and doing my homework.

So looking like ill try and find a Dana 44 for the front, getting coils from polyperformance, hydrolic steering, and fab rest as we go.

Just SAS'd a 00' durango about 2 weeks ago and that thing turned out beautifully.
any pics of the Durango?

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I'd recommend a 60 for the front with chromo axle shafts for 40s. Gives you plenty of room if you want to move up (you'll want to). Gears and lockers. For cheap and easy with plenty of performance, I'd do leafs up front. Then got to think of a rear axle. Ford 8.8 or 9 would be good. Or 14 bolt if you want to go big...

Honestly though, unless you're prepared to drop 15k, I would not recommend doing a SFAC on something that only sees "a lil offroading but nothing very aggressive". I also would not recommend doing it to your DD. and like I said, with hydro and everything you want, definitely expect to spend 10-15k on the project, if not more.
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Um. D60 or dont bother. Check my sig for a link to my build. Skip the first shitload of pages and get to the SAS stuff.

Kingpin>Ball joints

I am at $2500 building the front axle alone. High pinon kingpin, 4.56 gears, spartan locker, all new bearings seals, shaved housing, 35 spline chromo inners and outers, 35 spline warn hubs. And I got some swingin deals.

And screw the arb up front...thats why you have hubs. Unlock for street driving.

If you're gonna wheel it actually, do it right the first time. 40's wont last on anything but 35 spline D60 :2cents:
x2 on both counts. Good info here.
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any pics of the Durango?
ill have to find them but ill get em
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lol d30...
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I only say that because let's be honest, who's going to swap a tacoma to run freaking 33's
Alex did.. (alove0750)


OP, if you want to run 40" tires, even a d44 is a no go. Don't use anything smaller than a 1 ton axle. D60 for the front, more options for the rear like d60, d70, d80, and 14 bolt.

What's your budget for this build look like? Good advice in this thread...
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