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Lots and lots of guns and i am a competitive shooter.
I hunt bear for around 16 weekends every year

okay sounds good.

i figure the biggest threat we will face is friendly fire but now the news is saying police are cutting back forces in the area significantly.
 
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okay sounds good.

i figure the biggest threat we will face is friendly fire but now the news is saying police are cutting back forces in the area significantly.
we have to wait tell next week though i still need to put my motor back in my truck.
 
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we have to wait tell next week though i still need to put my motor back in my truck.
well if we split the 1 million then you'll have plenty to buy a new truck !!
 
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well if we split the 1 million then you'll have plenty to buy a new truck !!
sweet i am planning on buying a second gen soon anyways...
 
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Bear = instinctive. runs away. close combat. loud. relatively easy to track. claws. doesn't know anybody is hunting it.

Dorner = trained body and mind for combat. advantage of hiding. quiet. extremely difficult to track. Barrett .50 cal + 29 other weapons. excellent marksmen. stealthy. has no qualms with putting a bullet in your head. knows every person in the entire US is out to find him.

Good luck.
 
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Bear = instinctive. runs away. close combat. loud. relatively easy to track. claws. doesn't know anybody is hunting it.

Dorner = trained body and mind for combat. advantage of hiding. quiet. extremely difficult to track. Barrett .50 cal + 29 other weapons. excellent marksmen. stealthy. has no qualms with putting a bullet in your head. knows every person in the entire US is out to find him.

Good luck.
You are making it sounds easy...
 
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Bear = instinctive. runs away. close combat. loud. relatively easy to track. claws. doesn't know anybody is hunting it.

Dorner = trained body and mind for combat. advantage of hiding. quiet. extremely difficult to track. Barrett .50 cal + 29 other weapons. excellent marksmen. stealthy. has no qualms with putting a bullet in your head. knows every person in the entire US is out to find him.

Good luck.
I doubt Dorner is carrying 30 rifles or weapons with him

I seriously doubt he is carrying a .50 cal unless he wants to haul around 35 extra pounds.

I think Dorner is now scared and out of his element. He does best when he can ambush couples sitting in their car.

He is no survivalist and has no mountain training or sniper training or counter surveilance training.

LAPD trained him to use a handgun at close distance. If you noticed LAPD isnt very good using handguns at close distance.

Hunting deer and elk in the mountains for years and years trains people very well. Many special forces guys confirm this.

Dorner is a city creature.

But now the tides have turned on him and he is all lone and everyone gets scared and he is scared.
 
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I doubt Dorner is carrying 30 rifles or weapons with him

I seriously doubt he is carrying a .50 cal unless he wants to haul around 35 extra pounds.

I think Dorner is now scared and out of his element. He does best when he can ambush couples sitting in their car.

He is no survivalist and has no mountain training or sniper training or counter surveilance training.

LAPD trained him to use a handgun at close distance. If you noticed LAPD isnt very good using handguns at close distance.

Hunting deer and elk in the mountains for years and years trains people very well. Many special forces guys confirm this.

Dorner is a city creature.

But now the tides have turned on him and he is all lone and everyone gets scared and he is scared.
this is true but he is former navy and has rifle marksman ribbon and pistol expert medal i think he can do some damage with a pistol and a rifle
 
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this is true but he is former navy and has rifle marksman ribbon and pistol expert medal i think he can do some damage with a pistol and a rifle
Maybe some of the military guys can chime in here, but I thought that his qualifications in the Navy were minimum standards met and that everyone who passes the minimum standards gets those "marksman" award.

Plus, the Navy is one step above the Air Force when it comes to firearms training and standards which is about 100 steps below Army and Marines minimum infantry requirements.
 
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Guns found in the truck were also burned, but authorities believe Dorner may have as many as 30 guns with him, the source said. Dorner was in the Navy and is trained in counterinsurgency and intelligence, the source said.
If you think you're "doubts" and "hunches" are strong enough, go for it. Not gonna be my face on the news in the latest developments on this manhunt. If he is what you say he is, there are only 2 possibilities;

A) He killed himself and was eaten by scavengers.
B) He is the world's luckiest man alive, to be scared and alone and evade countless search parties utilizing every available officer from the local to federal and military level.

Like I said, Good luck.
 
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Maybe some of the military guys can chime in here, but I thought that his qualifications in the Navy were minimum standards met and that everyone who passes the minimum standards gets those "marksman" award.

Plus, the Navy is one step above the Air Force when it comes to firearms training and standards which is about 100 steps below Army and Marines minimum infantry requirements.
yea but he is trained on both platforms which is a lot better than a cop...
 
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Wow.......I remember these threads, I told myself id steer clear now.....but im in here waiting for the lock
 
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what do you bring to the table ?

experience ?

firepower ?
I can hear a fish fart under a waterfall.
 
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well thankfully you can only fire one gun at a time accurately so if he has 30 i'm not concerned.

from what i heard his navy experience wasnt in field operations ; meaning he doesnt have training for on the ground ops.

yes, so far he is doing good evading police but so have a million other cut rate criminals.

from what i have heard the searches in the big bear area realy didnt penetrate the back country. police were simply afraid to get back into woods.
 
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well thankfully you can only fire one gun at a time accurately so if he has 30 i'm not concerned.

from what i heard his navy experience wasnt in field operations ; meaning he doesnt have training for on the ground ops.

yes, so far he is doing good evading police but so have a million other cut rate criminals.

from what i have heard the searches in the big bear area realy didnt penetrate the back country. police were simply afraid to get back into woods.
Those guys didn't have the FBI, Air Force, National Guard, Every available black and white in 3 states and 2 countries, AND drones looking for him around the clock.
 
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Those guys didn't have the FBI, Air Force, National Guard, Every available black and white in 3 states and 2 countries, AND drones looking for him around the clock.

DC snipers.....

Eric Rudolph.....

many others

and for what its worth, every report out of big bear area says there arent many LEO up there searching right now.
 
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not to argue, but i think he killed himself. his body is cold hence being under snow for a few days, and the heat cameras cant pick him up... he made references to "not being alive to see his name cleared" anyways... anyone know how LE found his truck up there? who called, etc.. i guess he couldve put it there a couple days before, and set a bomb on a timer... but unlikely.
 
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not to argue, but i think he killed himself. his body is cold hence being under snow for a few days, and the heat cameras cant pick him up... he made references to "not being alive to see his name cleared" anyways... anyone know how LE found his truck up there? who called, etc.. i guess he couldve put it there a couple days before, and set a bomb on a timer... but unlikely.
Tip called in on the truck. I bet he paid some riverside hobo to drive it up there and light it. Or he had another truck waiting.
 
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