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Old 03-25-2013, 06:38 AM   #442
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Protection as usual, should be interesting.
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:32 AM   #443
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Helmit Marco is a douchebag , I bet Webber regrets resigning with Red Bull now when he had the chance to move to Ferrari
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Old 03-25-2013, 11:14 AM   #444
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Maybe, but he knew the situation w/Marko, and Horner seems to be fair. At Ferrari, he would have been the absolute #2 to Alonser. Too bad about his misfortune by the way. Go Button.
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Old 03-25-2013, 02:11 PM   #445
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Old 03-25-2013, 02:35 PM   #446
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Red Bull won't do anything of it despite them saying that they'll have lots of "internal talks". If RB really had such a big problem, they would have told Vettel to give the spot back. Facts are that Vettel has brought them 3 world championships and they can always get someone else to play second fiddle to Vettel if Webber doesn't like it. That was a coward move by Vettel no doubt, but all the great ones have committed similar sins.
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:21 PM   #448
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Red Bull won't do anything of it despite them saying that they'll have lots of "internal talks". If RB really had such a big problem, they would have told Vettel to give the spot back. Facts are that Vettel has brought them 3 world championships and they can always get someone else to play second fiddle to Vettel if Webber doesn't like it. That was a coward move by Vettel no doubt, but all the great ones have committed similar sins.
Red Bull won't do anything because Helmut Marko has a hard on for Vettel

Helmut Marko is the " protection " that Webber was referring to in his comments
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Interesting point about Horner's authority being in question after Sunday's race


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/21922429
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:12 PM   #450
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I don't think so. Webber should of passed Vettel to regain the lead, he should of RACED the little shit, but he COULD NOT pass him, he is not the driver Vettel is. Fuck team orders.
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I don't think so. Webber should of passed Vettel to regain the lead, he should of RACED the little shit, but he COULD NOT pass him, he is not the driver Vettel is. Fuck team orders.
Webber followed his employer's direction , fuck nut did not
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:33 AM   #452
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I know, and where did it get him? 1st loser. (second place)
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:21 AM   #455
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I know, and where did it get him? 1st loser. (second place)
You seem to think F1 is an individual driver free for all , when in actuality it is a team sport
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:50 AM   #456
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It sucks to not be able to go 100% the entire race because of the need to nurse tires and save fuel etc, but that is the unfortunate reality of F1 these days.

There are two championships in F1. Driver's and Constructors. To most viewers and fans, the drivers one is more important and more exciting, however the reality is, the constructors championship is the more important one.

It IS a team sport. There are anywhere from 250 up to 500 people employed in an F1 team including the drivers. Vettel and Webber are two of the many employees of Red Bull and paid quite fairly to do their job. They obviously get the most spotlight, but there are only a fraction of the team and only a piece of the puzzle.

In Vettel's case in Malaysia, 8 extra points for HIS OWN championship campaign was more important to him than safely securing 43 points for his employer Red Bull Racing (that pays him big $) after being asked to do so, risking the work of 500 people to go in vain. Teams collect lots of $ at the end of the season based on their end season standings. It is not all their only income, but still a significant amount.

The lame part is that Mark was not aware that they were still racing as they both were told to maintain position at that stage of the race close to the end when Mercedes no longer was a threat to them, but tire wear surely was. Seb caught up to Mark from behind going all out, while Mark was driving 9/10 of the pace he could. If both Mark and Seb were going all out, it would take Vettel a lot longer to catch up to Mark if at all. Maybe he would catch him or even pass him still, maybe he would not be able to come close. The point is it would be FAIR THEN as they both would be properly racing.
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The actual battle for 1st is awesome however.

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It sucks to not be able to go 100% the entire race because of the need to nurse tires and save fuel etc, but that is the unfortunate reality of F1 these days.

There are two championships in F1. Driver's and Constructors. To most viewers and fans, the drivers one is more important and more exciting, however the reality is, the constructors championship is the more important one.

It IS a team sport. There are anywhere from 250 up to 500 people employed in an F1 team including the drivers. Vettel and Webber are two of the many employees of Red Bull and paid quite fairly to do their job. They obviously get the most spotlight, but there are only a fraction of the team and only a piece of the puzzle.

In Vettel's case in Malaysia, 8 extra points for HIS OWN championship campaign was more important to him than safely securing 43 points for his employer Red Bull Racing (that pays him big $) after being asked to do so, risking the work of 500 people to go in vain. Teams collect lots of $ at the end of the season based on their end season standings. It is not all their only income, but still a significant amount.

The lame part is that Mark was not aware that they were still racing as they both were told to maintain position at that stage of the race close to the end when Mercedes no longer was a threat to them, but tire wear surely was. Seb caught up to Mark from behind going all out, while Mark was driving 9/10 of the pace he could. If both Mark and Seb were going all out, it would take Vettel a lot longer to catch up to Mark if at all. Maybe he would catch him or even pass him still, maybe he would not be able to come close. The point is it would be FAIR THEN as they both would be properly racing.
Exactly

Great post

Webber has his engine mode turned down as was requested of both Red Bull cars , Vettel decided on his own to turn his engine mode back up , defy the team orders and pass his " teammate "

Not only risking a collision , but putting additional unneeded strain on the engine and gear box that must last 5 races

Selfish , there can be no other explanation , from a non Vettel fan or Vettel fanboys
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LOL.......
I "seem to think" team orders are shit, let em race. The constructors championship is mostly important to the constructors. Most fans pull for the driver, check previous post. I've been watching Formula One for over thirty years, been to races, I think I get the concept. I say what I say about "the Pass" because it is my understanding that it happened 13 laps from the end of the race, Webster had time to fight, but gee, I could be wrong. At any rate, what I post is just IMO, so you boys enjoy the races.
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LOL.......
I "seem to think" team orders are shit, let em race. The constructors championship is mostly important to the constructors. Most fans pull for the driver, check previous post. I've been watching Formula One for over thirty years, been to races, I think I get the concept. I say what I say about "the Pass" because it is my understanding that it happened 13 laps from the end of the race, Webster had time to fight, but gee, I could be wrong. At any rate, what I post is just IMO, so you boys enjoy the races.
Team orders for team sports , and Webber chose to obey his employer's instructions even after Mr Douche chose not to
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