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Old 07-09-2013, 04:56 PM   #261
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A little over a week ago I installed my Kenwood TM-V71A dual band radio paired with a Larsen NMO2/70B antenna. The radio is wired directly to my Auxiliary battery with fuses at both ends. I mounted the antenna through a 1/2" bolt hole to a light tab that was welded to my flat expanded steel floor baja rack. I had to use a thick mount NMO to make it work and I soldered on the PL-259 coax connector. The antenna it'self is 33.5". Total height mounted to truck is 8' something. I'll post pics of my install when I get them out of the camera...

I am amazed at crystal clear audio. I can hit repeaters perfectly from 36 miles away on good terrain. So far I'm very happy
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Took and passed the Technician exam Saturday.

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I don't have any Ham Radio dealers where I live so my purchase is going to be online. Just curious what about the reasons you went with the Yaesu over the Kenwood?
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Been thinking about this HAM thing, figured it'd be good to have when the zombies attack and aliens invade. What does a decent setup run?
And what kind of trouble can I get into, for instance, could I pull up beside somebody listening to fm radio and talk through theirs like StarScream from Transformers? If I knew the channel they were listening to, or is it totally different frequencies? Can it be done?
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Where could i get some material to study for the exam? Lateley i have been interested in two way communication and have been listening on some local repeaters over the internet, seems pretty fun.
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Been thinking about this HAM thing, figured it'd be good to have when the zombies attack and aliens invade. What does a decent setup run?
And what kind of trouble can I get into, for instance, could I pull up beside somebody listening to fm radio and talk through theirs like StarScream from Transformers? If I knew the channel they were listening to, or is it totally different frequencies? Can it be done?
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Been thinking about this HAM thing, figured it'd be good to have when the zombies attack and aliens invade. What does a decent setup run?
And what kind of trouble can I get into, for instance, could I pull up beside somebody listening to fm radio and talk through theirs like StarScream from Transformers? If I knew the channel they were listening to, or is it totally different frequencies? Can it be done?


If you've done ANY research on it, the first thing to know is that you need an FCC issued LICENSE to operate a radio legally, one of which is obtained by passing a license exam that you need to actually study for. Now with that being said, causing interference with another person's radio is completely illegal and good luck getting on their frequency.
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A little over a week ago I installed my Kenwood TM-V71A dual band radio paired with a Larsen NMO2/70B antenna. The radio is wired directly to my Auxiliary battery with fuses at both ends. I mounted the antenna through a 1/2" bolt hole to a light tab that was welded to my flat expanded steel floor baja rack. I had to use a thick mount NMO to make it work and I soldered on the PL-259 coax connector. The antenna it'self is 33.5". Total height mounted to truck is 8' something. I'll post pics of my install when I get them out of the camera...

I am amazed at crystal clear audio. I can hit repeaters perfectly from 36 miles away on good terrain. So far I'm very happy
What were your reasons for going with the Kenwood? Did you install the optional noise filter? Thanks!
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If you've done ANY research on it, the first thing to know is that you need an FCC issued LICENSE to operate a radio legally, one of which is obtained by passing a license exam that you need to actually study for. Now with that being said, causing interference with another person's radio is completely illegal and good luck getting on their frequency.

Haha, man I was hoping to bring a little joke to the thread haha. Things don't always come out right when other people read it. Or they take things too serious, I guess if I would've read it, I would've visualized it being done and thought it was funny. I fly aircraft and realize there is some seriousness involved with radio coms, but I wouldn't think coming over somebody's radio sounding like a Transformer while there listening to T-Pain or Justin Beiber would be a big deal (if it could be done) and good luck catching them or proving it.

Anyway, I have done a little research and also looked at your thread and realize you have to have a license etc.
What I did ask and was serious about was, how much a decent setup would run? Figured you guys would know from experience, not me looking it up on the interweb.. Thanks
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Haha, man I was hoping to bring a little joke to the thread haha. Things don't always come out right when other people read it. Or they take things too serious, I guess if I would've read it, I would've visualized it being done and thought it was funny. I fly aircraft and realize there is some seriousness involved with radio coms, but I wouldn't think coming over somebody's radio sounding like a Transformer while there listening to T-Pain or Justin Beiber would be a big deal (if it could be done) and good luck catching them or proving it.

Anyway, I have done a little research and also looked at your thread and realize you have to have a license etc.
What I did ask and was serious about was, how much a decent setup would run? Figured you guys would know from experience, not me looking it up on the interweb.. Thanks
Roger... Was hoping it was a joke

There are definitely some odd people involved in HAM radio, absolutely not a group you want to have pissed off at you. They have a lot of free time.

I was able to get into a decent setup for around $200 total.

That's a: Yaesu FT-1900R

Larsen 150B (5/8 Wave, I think) NMO Mount Antenna

That Larsen NMO kit comes with about 20' of quality coax also - you've got to solder on a PL-259 connector as well.

The Yaesu is a great little radio - basic, rugged and small. I believe it's 65 Watts maximum... Keep in mind that it's only a 2 Meter Band radio, as opposed to a dual band (2 Meter/ 70 CM).

I'm not too big on talking on most of the local repeaters near me - most of the traffic is just a bunch of chit chat... Simplex vehicle to vehicle on the trail is SO much better than (Legal) CB. Also, very cool to be able to stay in communication out in the backcountry. Echolink and IRLP are all cool tools too.

Before you even buy anything, I'd get that license. Just study for it and you'll do fine.
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:28 AM   #272
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What were your reasons for going with the Kenwood? Did you install the optional noise filter? Thanks!
No noise filter was needed. I did install ferrite chokes on the mic cord extension (cat 5 patch cord with RJ45 coupler), and on the radio head extension cable. But that is all, it's what the manual recommended.

I bought two roadpro 5 watt external speakers which are resting behind the dash cup holders for now. Without these I could not copy well at all while traveling down the highway--just too much road noise. For $20.00 I'm happy with them.

For the radio I wanted a dual band (2M / 70CM) radio with cross-band repeat functionality and I like that the Kenwood has 50 watts on both sides of radio. I was considering APRS but was not necessary. The radio also reviewed really well on eHam.net All the buttons are back lit as well. The radio can also be remotely controlled using an HT (handie talkie).

Used in this configuration I don't need to install a radio in my house and I can leverage my mobile radio with great antenna and power. I leave the mobile radio powered up in the truck (connected to aux battery) and use the cross band repeat to access repeaters while I am in my house. In the house I have an old icom IC-T2H that an elmer gave me and I use it on low power to transmit to the truck and from the truck it transmits to the distant repeaters. It works great!

The Kenwood also has Echolink which is more widely supported than other advanced features (DStar, WIRES) it seems. With Echolink you can access a repeater that supports it and using your raido you can "link" your local repeater to any other Echolink node in the world that's not busy. For example, last night I was listening to a repeater on Palomar Mountain (35 miles North) and I heard someone link that repeater to one in Australia!

Echolink is more of a novelty for me but I think it's really cool. There is even an app for the android phone. Using the Echolink app on my phone and my data connection, I can monitor [and transmit] on any repeater that supports it anywhere in the world. I have enjoyed monitoring the 147.33 machine in Big Bear from the comfort of my couch in San Diego. Any licensed HAM can use Echolink, it's not exclusive to Kenwood...

I've learned a lot since installing the radio, and I've come to understand that 50 Watts of power is largely unnecessary for most UHF/VHF comms. Antenna placement seems to be more important. So if you're shopping, don't get too hung up on the power specs. For example, with my truck in the right places in San Diego, I can easily hit repeaters 114 miles away like the Mt. Wilson 447.700 UHF machine with only 10 watts of power. It's mostly about line of sight.



Here are some pics of my install:

I declined to mount the radio head. Instead I just put some velco on it and when it's dark I stick it on the dash, or it just sits next to the shifter when it's sunny out. This lends itself well to if my wife is driving and I am shotgun I have easy access for control. I could even work the radio from the back if I had to.



I pulled out the drivers seat and mounted the body with zip ties under the seat.



Larsen 2/70B antenna mounted to Bajarack light tab.







I ran 10 gauge wire from the Auxillary battery in the bed along the frame (and the coax) and came up through a gromment right under the drivers seat.

Installing was fun, but let me tell you. I pulled an all-nighter to get it done because I had no time due to work and family duties!

I'm still very new to the HAM world so everything I wrote is based on my very limited experience.
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I don't have any Ham Radio dealers where I live so my purchase is going to be online. Just curious what about the reasons you went with the Yaesu over the Kenwood?
I went with they Yaesu because it is like the Tacoma, tons of them out there and they are tried, true, and tested.

Kenwood makes a good product and I know a few people that own them, but 80% of the people I talk to, have a Yaesu in there rig.

Look at the features and what you think you will use the most.
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I'm still very new to the HAM world so everything I wrote is based on my very limited experience. [/QUOTE] FROM CROM

Thanks for the helpful response & pics. Much appreciated!
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I went with they Yaesu because it is like the Tacoma, tons of them out there and they are tried, true, and tested.

Kenwood makes a good product and I know a few people that own them, but 80% of the people I talk to, have a Yaesu in there rig.

Look at the features and what you think you will use the most.
Thanks for the response - much appreciated.

I've narrowed it down to either the Yaesu Ft-8800r or the Kenwood TM- V71a. Because I really no nothing about radios, especially Hams, I'm trying to figure out which one may be the most user friendly - I don't know how to use half the stuff on my smartphone
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Thanks for the response - much appreciated.

I've narrowed it down to either the Yaesu Ft-8800r or the Kenwood TM- V71a. Because I really no nothing about radios, especially Hams, I'm trying to figure out which one may be the most user friendly - I don't know how to use half the stuff on my smartphone
You're welcome. I'd recommend reading reviews like this which are very helpful in making informed decisions:

http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6712
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/3427
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Roger... Was hoping it was a joke

There are definitely some odd people involved in HAM radio, absolutely not a group you want to have pissed off at you. They have a lot of free time.

I was able to get into a decent setup for around $200 total.

That's a: Yaesu FT-1900R

Larsen 150B (5/8 Wave, I think) NMO Mount Antenna

That Larsen NMO kit comes with about 20' of quality coax also - you've got to solder on a PL-259 connector as well.

The Yaesu is a great little radio - basic, rugged and small. I believe it's 65 Watts maximum... Keep in mind that it's only a 2 Meter Band radio, as opposed to a dual band (2 Meter/ 70 CM).

I'm not too big on talking on most of the local repeaters near me - most of the traffic is just a bunch of chit chat... Simplex vehicle to vehicle on the trail is SO much better than (Legal) CB. Also, very cool to be able to stay in communication out in the backcountry. Echolink and IRLP are all cool tools too.

Before you even buy anything, I'd get that license. Just study for it and you'll do fine.
Yeah it was a joke.
I heard there was some odd ones involved, why what would they do lol?

200 bucks isn't bad.
I'll have to look those up you mentioned.. I was thinking, I wonder if a little hand held would do the trick incase you needed to walk about away from your truck.
And yeah I wouldn't really be talking on it much if ever. I had been thinking it could be a useful tool in emergency situations when a cell phone couldn't get a signal etc.
Thanks for the info.
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ham guys get pretty janky with their setups and can actually block your signal, triangulate it, find out where it's coming from, and report you to the FCC where you'll be paying big fines when they catch you...those guys don't mess around.
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Well we can't legally block it but we can find you! Generally if we go looking it usually involves some one blocking or jamming signals. A ham legally cannot communicate with a non-licensed operator except in a case of life or limb at that point any one can use any frequency to summons help licensed or not. Nice install Crom. Yes getting the antennas away from the truck body really does help and high is good just remember it’s up there when you use a parking garage or head off to the woods they will break or rip the mount out. Radios are like trucks everyone has their favorite if you buy a radio from any one of the big name guys you can’t go wrong I won a Chinese hand held at a ham fest and yes it does work don’t drop it or expect to remember how to program it without a computer handy bottom line I would not have bought it despite the price.
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I really like the install above, good job Crom.. That is a good place, out of site out of mind to thief's, and you keep a nice clean look. And I like how you can utilize your truck mounted unit with a hand held. The multi function and mounting location of your setup is something I would like. For your Aux battery , do you just have an extra battery wired to your regular?

Maineah your comment about antennas and mounts reminded of some ideas I had.

I was brainstorming on some ideas for mounting locations for everything, one of the things I was thinking about was the antenna.
What do you guys think of this?
I think it would be awesome if you could figure out what all to use and get it hooked up right. If you could find a little weather proof electric motor you could mount your antenna to , that would turn 90 degrees and lock out when you power up your radio. For example if you mounted it on the inside of your bed right at the bed rails, when off the antenna would lay parallel to rails, when you power on, it raises straight vertical.. Idea or purpose would be keeping a clean look and your antenna wouldn't be getting smacked on different things as much, at least when down. Also could be set up with multiple antennas . And I know certain locations would limit the length you would be able to use.
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