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I like Michael Vick!

Discussion in 'Sports, Hobbies & Interests' started by DanGer, Aug 14, 2009.

  1. Aug 14, 2009 at 9:15 PM
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    Vick is a guy who has a long history of "off the field issues". In my opinion he'll have "issues" again in the future. It probably won't be dog fighting but he'll get caught up with something.
     
  2. Aug 15, 2009 at 5:31 AM
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    Ok but he DIDN'T get out of the crime because of money, or a loop hole, he went to prison.
     
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    Wow.. this thread boggles my mind...
     
  5. Aug 15, 2009 at 6:42 AM
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    Great role moled vick is.... Wonderful for the kids... Any of us did that stuff we would still be in the federal pen!!!!
     
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    its a shame he will still play football,still make millions,and people will still like him, and go see him
     
  7. Aug 15, 2009 at 11:04 AM
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    Ya I guess a court ordered sentence in a federal pen is not enough for you guys.
     
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    im going to have to disagree with this totally... Vick got persecuted for dog fighting b/c he was famous and thats it... ive lived in areas where they would still normal neighborhood dogs for their dogs to fight/kill... these guys would just get their dogs taken and spend a few months in county
     
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    Sounds like you are saying it is ok!?!?!
     
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    not quite sure how my statement condones animal cruelty but i dont and was just commenting on the prison sentence that Vick got b/c he was famous and other dog fighters get quite a bit less
     
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    So u want your kid look up to a man like that? Guess I was out of line and sorry about what I just said. I don't want my god son and any other kid coming to me and staying they look up to vick! What kind of crap is that! Oh I can be like these football players make millions and get away with murder!! Our world is soo messed up
     
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    The truth is that anyone, Vick or the others watching animals fighting, that tortures and kills animals for fun is mentally unstable. Look at any psycopath and they will exhibit these personality traits of torturing animals before gaining the courage to progress to attempting it on people. They are sociopaths and have no regard for life.
     
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    Thank ty!! That is was I was triing to say!!
     
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    Its not that what he did was wrong. It was horrible. He paid for it by spending over a year and a half of his life in jail, paying for the remaining dogs to be rehabilitated, and is now working construction.

    People let their (sometimes newfound) hatred of animal cruelty to cloud their rationalism in this case. Had it been his brother in this case, I would not feel one bit of sympathy. However Mike was a fantastic guy when I met him who rose from the slums and used his talents to become famous.
     
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    No problem, if you read any psychology on maladaptive behaviors this is one of the classic behaviors. Also I DO NOT blame Vick for his problem because he probably has either a chemical imbalance or something in his early years of development that set this behavior off. I didn't say he is justified in his actions but he needs counseling to see why he is the way he is and fix the problem.
     
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    I understand, but why aren't people who are after vick's throat go after the country of mexico, or spain for the practice of bull fighting?

    Kinda random but anyone know the song vicarious by tool? This situation shows how true those lyrics really are.
     
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    Without a doubt they we after Vick for who he is and not for his crimes. The police and state of virginia wanted to make a name for themselves and make an example out of Vick. Had this been a raid on any other dog fighting ring then nothing would have been said. There are two completely different points in this topic that people don't differentiate the first being Vick committed a crime and since he did his time he should be forgiven and the second is even though he has payed his debt he will always carry that stigma of cruelty anywhere he goes.
     
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    Apples and orange by these comparisons. It is cultural differences, spainards think nothing of the brutality of a bullfight while we in the states spend billions on getting out dog/cat Christmas presents. Ethnocentrism means judging others by your cultures standards and that is what a lot of people do. I cant go to another country and say that they should not perform certain rights of passage even though they are cruel and barbaric to torture young men because we don't do that in our country.
     
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    That is a very good post. The thing that bugs me is there is no way of telling if he has changed unless his is given a chance to prove it. People are so out for blood that they wont even consider it. It is even in his contract with the Eagles, if he isn't proactive in preventing animal cruelty, he contract is void. Keep in mind that Lurie is the eagles owner.

     
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