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Old 04-13-2013, 09:43 AM   #1
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Question Optimal Tire Size for 20" Wheels on a 4-Cylinder Tacoma

Note: I know there is a "Wheel & Tire" forum, but it's dominated by people looking for 4x4 wheels and tires, hence I'm posting here in the "Street Truck" forum to hopefully reach the correct audience.

I'm in the market for new wheels now that I finally got my new truck (2013 2wd regular cab) and I'm trying to decide if I want to go with 19" or 20" wheels. Since the 4 cylinder Tacoma is pretty much a gutless wonder in terms of horsepower, I'm trying to strike the right balance between looks and functionality for daily use.

While wheel shopping online, the most recommended tire size is a P255/35/20 which leaves very little sidewall protection. I've found quite a few forum posts about people with this size tire reporting bent rims and wishing they had gone with a 40-series tire.

Many people go with really wide tires which, even with an aspect ratio of 35, gives a decent amount of sidewall protect. However, even though wide tires look cool, they also weigh much more, increase rolling resistance (which means they decrease fuel economy), and they have a tendency to 'drive the vehicle' (I.e., the tires follow ruts in the road). If my truck was a V6 X-Runner, I'd consider wide wheels and tires, but it's not... it's just a slow, underpowered truck.

After doing some research, a P245/40/20 tire almost seems too good to be true. It's a readily available size tire, it's wide but not too wide, and the only disadvantage I see so far is that it's slightly 'taller' than my OEM tires which means my speedo will be off a little. In theory, this tire size has a 3.9" sidewall height which is a tad more than the 18" tires I had on my last truck.

For comparison, here's the stock 15" tire compared to the the P245/40/20:



And here's the stock X-Runner P255/45/18 tire compared to the P245/40/20:



Once again, the P245/40/20 is still pretty beefy, but just a little narrower than the X-Runner tire, which I think is OK since my truck is no X-Runner.

What are your thoughts on a P245/40/20 tire with either an 8.5" or 9" rim? Yeah or ney? If you know of a Tacoma with this wheel size, I'd appreciate some photos of it.
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Note: I know there is a "Wheel & Tire" forum, but it's dominated by people looking for 4x4 wheels and tires, hence I'm posting here in the "Street Truck" forum to hopefully reach the correct audience.

I'm in the market for new wheels now that I finally got my new truck (2013 2wd regular cab) and I'm trying to decide if I want to go with 19" or 20" wheels. Since the 4 cylinder Tacoma is pretty much a gutless wonder in terms of horsepower, I'm trying to strike the right balance between looks and functionality for daily use.

While wheel shopping online, the most recommended tire size is a P255/35/20 which leaves very little sidewall protection. I've found quite a few forum posts about people with this size tire reporting bent rims and wishing they had gone with a 40-series tire.

Many people go with really wide tires which, even with an aspect ratio of 35, gives a decent amount of sidewall protect. However, even though wide tires look cool, they also weigh much more, increase rolling resistance (which means they decrease fuel economy), and they have a tendency to 'drive the vehicle' (I.e., the tires follow ruts in the road). If my truck was a V6 X-Runner, I'd consider wide wheels and tires, but it's not... it's just a slow, underpowered truck.

After doing some research, a P245/40/20 tire almost seems too good to be true. It's a readily available size tire, it's wide but not too wide, and the only disadvantage I see so far is that it's slightly 'taller' than my OEM tires which means my speedo will be off a little. In theory, this tire size has a 3.9" sidewall height which is a tad more than the 18" tires I had on my last truck.

For comparison, here's the stock 15" tire compared to the the P245/40/20:



And here's the stock X-Runner P255/45/18 tire compared to the P245/40/20:



Once again, the P245/40/20 is still pretty beefy, but just a little narrower than the X-Runner tire, which I think is OK since my truck is no X-Runner.

What are your thoughts on a P245/40/20 tire with either an 8.5" or 9" rim? Yeah or ney? If you know of a Tacoma with this wheel size, I'd appreciate some photos of it.
245/40/20 sounds perfect I'm running 245/35/20 and I do feel almost everything but I can't go bigger cuz I already run with these tires

But as for sidewall protection 245/40/20 sounds good I'd say stick with 20s at least u will close a lol wheel gap in the process 20x9 +32 or +20 is perfect
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I am stressing out over finding the right rim,tire combo as well. I went into discount tire yesterday and all the rims I liked the guy said would look right. I was looking at 16 in rims with the MB 5x rims and goodyear integrity tires. He test fit one and put it on the truck and it looked like crap!
I said no thanks,he was trying to cut me a good deal,4 new tires and rims for 1015.00 out the door but If its looks like crap,no thanks.
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Go with the 245/40/20's. That's my choice also. I haven't decide on rim style. What are you thinking?
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Go with the 245/40/20's. That's my choice also. I haven't decide on rim style. What are you thinking?
Well, I want to keep my wheel choice a secret until I actually get them

There are quite a few wheels that are new for 2013, so I'm hoping to buy something that not everyone else has. I really like the new trend with "concave" wheels, but I think the offset our trucks don't lend themselves to deep, concave wheels (That and few manufacturers offer concave wheels that don't cost an arm-and-a-leg.)

For the most part, I prefer simple 5-spoke wheels, so that's probably what I'll end-up with. What's kind of driving me nuts is that few wheel companies post the weight of their wheels online (other than TSW). The last I want to do is buy a 20" wheel that weighs 40 lbs.

I really think 19's are probably a better choice for my super-slow 4-banger truck, but the tire prices are considerably higher. I'm working on getting a notch in my trucks frame, so until I get that and get it lowered, I can keep being indecisive about my wheel selection.

Here's a sample of a "new for 2013" wheel that I really like but probably won't buy because they are only available in sizes up to 18":



But dang... when I see them on a car, I really like them!!!

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Sounds like you're around the same place I am with mine. I've been looking at notches of differing sizes, shapes and strengths. I've priced out bags with and without DJM hodge podge of components. Most practical is a mixture of djm, a custom notch and XIIPerformance components. Now with XII's upcoming front QA1coilovers and a 3 inch mono leaf getting ready to roll out my mind is seriously trying g to piece a decent setup together and cap it with the 20's, rear wheel disc and an upgraded front disc version. The thing is I only want to do it once due to the limited play money and because I want it done correctly the first time. I've done it piecemeal before and it always ends up costing more
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I like the rims. They look like they mean business. I like a simple look. Retro something...maybe I'm just old but there's yo much CNC fancy dance rims round everywhere I look. Anyhow, do you know the price on the ones in your picture HotTaco? Just curious is all
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Anyhow, do you know the price on the ones in your picture HotTaco?
The wheels are Enkei Kojins. Depending on the width and offset, it looks like they'd be ~$250 a wheel for 18's.
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Well, I want to keep my wheel choice a secret until I actually get them

There are quite a few wheels that are new for 2013, so I'm hoping to buy something that not everyone else has. I really like the new trend with "concave" wheels, but I think the offset our trucks don't lend themselves to deep, concave wheels (That and few manufacturers offer concave wheels that don't cost an arm-and-a-leg.)

For the most part, I prefer simple 5-spoke wheels, so that's probably what I'll end-up with. What's kind of driving me nuts is that few wheel companies post the weight of their wheels online (other than TSW). The last I want to do is buy a 20" wheel that weighs 40 lbs.

I really think 19's are probably a better choice for my super-slow 4-banger truck, but the tire prices are considerably higher. I'm working on getting a notch in my trucks frame, so until I get that and get it lowered, I can keep being indecisive about my wheel selection.

Here's a sample of a "new for 2013" wheel that I really like but probably won't buy because they are only available in sizes up to 18":



But dang... when I see them on a car, I really like them!!!

Those looks sick man or you could run them 20x10 stance wheels with a small stretch 255/35/20 hehe maybe one day when money falls from the sky and I get bored of my 18s I'll get some vossens

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Sounds like you're around the same place I am with mine. I've been looking at notches of differing sizes, shapes and strengths. I've priced out bags with and without DJM hodge podge of components. Most practical is a mixture of djm, a custom notch and XIIPerformance components. Now with XII's upcoming front QA1coilovers and a 3 inch mono leaf getting ready to roll out my mind is seriously trying g to piece a decent setup together and cap it with the 20's, rear wheel disc and an upgraded front disc version. The thing is I only want to do it once due to the limited play money and because I want it done correctly the first time. I've done it piecemeal before and it always ends up costing more
Sounds like you got it figured man how much of a drop do you plan on running with your 20s

If I had money I'd be interested in getting the soon to be produced coilovers but I don't but xii performance mixed with djm seems to be a pretty good match work for me
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Those looks sick man or you could run them 20x10
I'm pretty sure the dream of having concave wheels like that isn't going to happen, at least not for me. You're right in that in order to get a wheel that looks like the picture, it'd have to be at least 9.5" wide and not have much of an offset. That would mean the wheel and tire would stick-out past the finder, which I don't want. Oh well, they sure are perrrrty.

Although I'm looking for 19 or 20 inch wheels, I don't want a wide wheel. Width = more weight. Since my truck only produces a whopping 150 hp or so (and that's probably downhill with a tailwind), just putting narrow large wheels on it will be enough of a performance hit. I guess I need to start dreaming more of flat-faced wheels over concave.

Does anyone know if the 19" Highlander wheels fit on a Tacoma?



I'm trying to imagine that wheel in black on a Tacoma (or any color for that matter.)
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Clearly a photo-chop, but they don't look half bad:



Wish I could find a non-photoshopped picture just to confirm the Highlander wheels actually fit.
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I'm running 245-40-20 on my first gen taco 3in front drop 4in rear minimal scrubbing
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I'm running 245-40-20 on my first gen taco 3in front drop 4in rear minimal scrubbing
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245/40/20 on the first gens are a lil big for them fenders
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I can't remember exactly but if I recall their 1mm smaller od over factory.
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im running a 255/35/20 no rubbing yet but about to drop another 1.5 2 on top of my 3 4
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I like my 18s, If they were any bigger, my wallet would spontaneously combust.
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I like my 18s, If they were any bigger, my wallet would spontaneously combust.
i feel ya i just replaced 2 tires
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I buy 50000 mile tires for my 20s for 170each
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