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Better Dessert leaf pack

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by mnudo200827, Jul 23, 2010.

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Which is better for desert

Poll closed Sep 22, 2010.
  1. Deaver

    28.6%
  2. Alcan

    14.3%
  3. All-Pro

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  4. Other...Please Specify in post

    42.9%
  1. Jul 23, 2010 at 8:33 PM
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    mnudo200827

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    Just wondering what would be a better dessert leaf pack for more higher speed stuff, i have only heard of deaver, alcan, and allpro. I am looking for about 3-4" of lift too. Does Deaver make a pack thats 3-4" or would i need a custom. I know i can get a custom one from alcan, and all pro doesnt offer a custom one but they have a 3" one. So for all you guys with experience with leaf pack which would you suggest. Thanks...Mike
     
  2. Jul 23, 2010 at 10:07 PM
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    Engage Offroad long travel front and rear with some fat tires.
    3 to 4 inch rear lift is high unless you are running 6 inches up front... in which case, you don't want to do any high speed desert wheeling with a drop bracket lift...

    if long travel up front, then you could do a 3 or 4" rear lift and it will sit level...
     
  3. Jul 24, 2010 at 8:54 AM
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    i might go long travel up front in the future, just a little to mch money for me right now, but right now putting on camburg spindles with extended coilovers.
     
  4. Jul 24, 2010 at 3:23 PM
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    I wouldnt waste my $$ on a nice pack until you go spring under 62s. The packs cost the same amount but its night and night with a spring under setup.

    Do it once or two/three times to get it right. The choice is yours.
     
  5. Jul 24, 2010 at 9:56 PM
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    Engage Offroad long travel front and rear with some fat tires.
    x2
     
  6. Jul 25, 2010 at 10:18 AM
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    OME Dakar 3" of lift and better flexability.

    Or custom built.
     
  7. Jul 25, 2010 at 10:21 AM
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    I thought the OME Dakars are more for hauling, I hearf they are stiffer than all the other leaf packs
     
  8. Jul 25, 2010 at 1:13 PM
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    I know a guy that's running them on his LT kit and loves them.
     
  9. Jul 26, 2010 at 6:27 AM
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    anything less than a SUA 62" leaf pack out back is just gonna buck like crazy

    even if you just have mid trav up front, and not LT

    trust me...
     
  11. Jul 26, 2010 at 7:37 AM
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    You know when I see these kind of posts - You typically get what each poster has.

    I have the All Pro 3 inch. Off Road I think they are great. The problem is I know no different - other than the stock springs.

    When I worked at a Desert Proving Ground - we would go through 100s of whatever we were testing. The truck/car would be instrumented to detect movement, temperature, rate of change of movement, etc - then we would run over a test track that had exact replications of most major roads with unique characteristics - 405, Chicago Loop, etc., etc.

    This way you could find out if the set up would have a wicked isolation in some odd case.

    I highly doubt any of these springs go through the type of testing that Toyota did on their shit springs!

    If you really want to know what is 'best' for your ride, get all 3 and test them ON YOUR UNIQUE SET UP and sell the ones that aren't as good for what ever reason. When you test them - make sure you put them through their paces in the type of driving you like to do. More than likely, one set will stand above the others.

    :END RANT:
     
  12. Jul 26, 2010 at 12:10 PM
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    would the all pro 62" baja leafs be what you are talking about. Isnt there some tyoe of brackets you have to frabricate to fit those? And what is the lift on those if you know?
     
  13. Jul 26, 2010 at 12:19 PM
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    I chose "other" because we used these for dessert for years, worked WAY better than any of the options you said, my mom loves them:
    Sweet Dessert Pack

    Unless maybe you're like, gonna serve Yule Log or something, I guess then you could bring it in like a roasted pig on a spit sorta, that would be pretty cool if you got the alcans. Maybe you have really heavy cake.

    :D Just messing with you.
     
  14. Jul 26, 2010 at 12:21 PM
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    i don't think any of what you listed would taste good at all. :) try a slice of pie or cheesecake.
     
  15. Jul 26, 2010 at 12:25 PM
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    ya ya, i know i spelt desert wrong in the title:eek:
     
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    lol, i'm just playing
     
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    haha ya i know you are:D
     
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    If you're running in the desert, to do it right you'll want to go with a spring-under setup. This will involve new brackets, welding, shock hoops or a bed cage, the right shocks, etc. Moving the leaf pack under the axle frees up tons of space above the axle, allowing the suspension to compress move before parts start to interfere with each other (leafs hitting the frame, etc.)

    As for the springs themselves...

    Deaver makes the leafs for the Giant 64" and the DMZ 62" spring-under kits.
    The Engage spring-under kit uses the All-Pro Baja Leafs. (from what I've read)
    Alcan makes a nice product but you'll still need to get brackets.

    From what I've seen, the Engage setup will give you the most lift. Most spring-under kits ride near stock height or about an inch higher.
     
  19. Jul 26, 2010 at 12:55 PM
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    is the deaver F67 a over or under setup?
     
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    Sweet!!!
     

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