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Old 08-18-2010, 09:22 AM   #1
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Want to firm up my suspension a bit

I bought a 4X4 truck because I use my 4X4. I don't go wheeling or mudding but I do have to deal with a lot of snow in upstate NY and have a lot of land to take care of. Where I'm going with this is I would like to firm up my suspension a bit for less body roll and better performance in turns while keeping the stock suspension height.

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I'm sure you could put some 5100's all around and it would feel stiffer. And maybe a stiffer set of coils on the front.

I'd start with that unless someone else has other ides.
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Keeping the stock height may be a bit of a challenge, unless the body roll you're experiencing is more on the front end.

When I first got my truck I wasn't pleased with the amount of body roll I experienced going around corners and over bumps. Rear TSB springs took care of the back end but that left the front feeling like I was rolling over mashed potatoes every time I went over a bump at any angle other than 90 degrees.

Adding 5100s to the stock springs up front eliminated most of the "squish". I've never run them at 0" (started at 1.75" and didn't like the look so I dropped to 0.85") so I can't speak for how they ride without at least a little lift. Overall, 5100s are a pretty cheap alternative to firming up the ride quite a bit. If you don't qualify for the Rear Spring TSB then adding 5100s to the back would likely have the same effect.
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Stiff sway bar? I've never used them but see them for sale and they advertise less body roll.
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Yea I was thinking 5100s but was looking for a coils and shock options.

Never heard of a stiff sway bar?
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Are Timbrens airbags or what? I never really understood what they are or do.
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Too bad you couldn't get your hands on some Eibachs and 5100's...
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Too bad you couldn't get your hands on some Eibachs and 5100's...
. I just don't want to lift it. If you want them you can have them.
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Yea I was thinking 5100s but was looking for a coils and shock options.

Never heard of a stiff sway bar?
http://www.hellwigproducts.com/

They're supposed to reduce 'roll' in corners. I don't know much about them personally, but when I read what your problem was, this was the first thing that came to mind.
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. I just don't want to lift it. If you want them you can have them.
Weren't they only about an inch lift on a 4x4?

(...though i think i remember your 5100's were set to .85 currently)


What were you trying to improve on from that set-up?
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Weren't they only about an inch lift on a 4x4?

(...though i think i remember your 5100's were set to .85 currently)


What were you trying to improve on from that set-up?
I could get the shocks dropped back down to 0 I guess.

See the thing is I really want one of these...



...and I could use the cash
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x 2 on the eibach & 5100,GREAT RIDE
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I'm sure you could put some 5100's all around and it would feel stiffer. And maybe a stiffer set of coils on the front.

I'd start with that unless someone else has other ides.
If you set the 5100's to 0 and pair them with the OME 886 springs (from what I've read, they're pretty stiff) would you end up with the same stock ride height or are the springs themselves taller also?
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If you set the 5100's to 0 and pair them with the OME 886 springs (from what I've read, they're pretty stiff) would you end up with the same stock ride height or are the springs themselves taller also?
No it would lift the front 1.6"
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might have to google, i did a write up about 1 to 1 1/2 years ago on timbrens

they replace the rear bump stops
your rear bumpstops are a very hard rubber,
they act like a variable spring, work great for towing and help a bunch with body roll in turns, but do not affect normal driving

as the body starts to roll ( or go down because of a load in the bed) they
keep it level.

you can google and see more3 detailed explanation about them.

air bags about do the same thing, but you can vary the effect with air pressure. so nice to have a air supply, otherwise ytou would load them and then have to lower or raise the pressure with air


BOTH are easy to install, no modifying of the truck
timbrens just replace the rear bumpstops, air bags use existing brackets and think you use stock bumpstops

both are around $200
I saw they had systems for the front as well correct?
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Okay thanks for your input!!!
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