What does everyone think about the 2.5" Toytect Pro Basic Kit?

[SamSter0077]

Originally Posted by bambooshoots

Tires are next. As soon as I have some $800 saved up for some Bridestone Dueler Revos...in size 265/75/16.

I don't think the TSB will work with the Alcan AAL from Toytec.com. The TSB is basically that: an additional leaf spring. I had to go the AAL route because I bought my truck used and without a warranty. It it had been under warranty I would have just gotten the TSB done and bought only the Bilstein 5100s.

5100s are good for 0.00" 0.85" 1.75" 2.5."

So NO, I did not have the TSB performed on the back end of my truck.

So, 5100's up front should be good enough for me eh? Can you set them at what ever you want without having to take them apart? Would be nice to be able to change it without having to do an alignment every time. speaking of which.. how was your alignment after the fact? Can you tell me the difference in ride in the front end? Ride as in.. typical freeway ride.

Thanks,
Sam

PS- so those are factory 245/75/16's on there now?

[bambooshoots]

Originally Posted by SamSter0077

So, 5100's up front should be good enough for me eh? Can you set them at what ever you want without having to take them apart? Would be nice to be able to change it without having to do an alignment every time. speaking of which.. how was your alignment after the fact? Can you tell me the difference in ride in the front end? Ride as in.. typical freeway ride.

Thanks,
Sam

PS- so those are factory 245/75/16's on there now?

Well, at the time I was busy so I just dropped my truck off at a shop for an entire morning to have the shocks and AALs installed. I didnt' actually install them myself.

If you wanted to change the height, you'll probably have the remove the shocks completely every time.

It's a good idea to have an alignment done whenever the suspension/steering is messed with so I got that done as well. To be honest, the steering was wobbly and went all over the road when I first got it. After the tie rods were replaced and the Bilsteins were installed with another alignment did the truck not run all over the road.

The shocks perform great. Dips that would completely compress the OEM shocks before are now just comfortable to drive through, at faster speeds.

Stock BFG Rugged Trails 265/70/16. They suck. The truck has 58K on it; not sure if the previous owners replaced the factory tires with the same ones or if the tires currently on my truck have been on it since it's rolled off the assembly line.

[SamSter0077]

Cool, thanks. Looks like 5100's up front make the most sense for me as a first step, if I can get a deal... might buy 4 of them. Seen some posts, 2 are 199.00 and 4 are 259.00??

will see.

Thanks Bambooshoots & TW crew!


I have one last question to post about adjusting the 5100's under suspensions..

[bambooshoots]

Originally Posted by SamSter0077

Cool, thanks. Looks like 5100's up front make the most sense for me as a first step, if I can get a deal... might buy 4 of them. Seen some posts, 2 are 199.00 and 4 are 259.00??

will see.

Thanks Bambooshoots & TW crew!


I have one last question to post about adjusting the 5100's under suspensions..

I belive I got mine off eBay from Downsouth motorsports. Front and rear.

[chris4x4]

Originally Posted by SamSter0077

Long AAL will work with TSB springs in back? Can I still load the back to the brim, and tow without the truck looking like it has too much weight in back?

Shocks and springs up front, and I am at the 500+ mark.. Is my ride going to suck that bad with the stock Bilsteins?

When someone says they have the 5100's set to 1.75" up front.. I understand that is preloading the stock springs, but is that a 1.75" lift in front?

I do not want a crappy ride, and I am not replacing the uca's. I would like my Alignment to stay in spec too. In time, I will buy another Tacoma 4wd TRD that I will go all out on.. I guess for now, I want a enough lift so it does NOT look stock.. make sense?

-Sam

PS- sorry for all the questions, I think you guys are great to help people like me out with this.

With a long AAL you will be fine. Im running a long AAL with my TSB spring pack and it works great. Still flexes like stock, and when towing my boat, gear, food, drinks, and buddies, the rear is only about 1" lower than the front. I have some pics in my gallery of my truck hitched up to my boat (2900#'s) if you want to check it out. With the boat only it sits level. At 1.75" of lift, you should be able to get the alignment within spec. For an AAL, get one that is only 1" of lift, otherwise the ride will get a little stiff.

[YCPaul530]

I've been reading everyones postings, I have a question now!

So I ordered all four 5100's, and a AAL. I have 33'' tires I want to mount on my 05 taco, they are the toyos 295/70/17 on 17x9 wheels. Is this 2.5'' lift in the front going to be enough combined with the AAL and rear 5100's??? I have currenlty the OME 885 coils with spacers, but I was wondering if it would be better to do all four 5100's or the 885's in the front and 5100's on the rear? Any info will be greatly appreciated!

SO in a nutshell, 3'' toytec OME885 vs. front 5100, is it a "huge" difference? WIll they both fit 33'' tires?

[chris4x4]

Originally Posted by YCPaul530

I've been reading everyones postings, I have a question now!

So I ordered all four 5100's, and a AAL. I have 33'' tires I want to mount on my 05 taco, they are the toyos 295/70/17 on 17x9 wheels. Is this 2.5'' lift in the front going to be enough combined with the AAL and rear 5100's??? I have currenlty the OME 885 coils with spacers, but I was wondering if it would be better to do all four 5100's or the 885's in the front and 5100's on the rear? Any info will be greatly appreciated!

SO in a nutshell, 3'' toytec OME885 vs. front 5100, is it a "huge" difference? WIll they both fit 33'' tires?

Ummmm............your running 885's with spacers? Your ride must be pretty stiff! 33's are still gonna rub a little, but it is no big deal. 885's give more lift than the 5100 adjustables.

[SamSter0077]

Originally Posted by chris4x4

With a long AAL you will be fine. Im running a long AAL with my TSB spring pack and it works great. Still flexes like stock, and when towing my boat, gear, food, drinks, and buddies, the rear is only about 1" lower than the front. I have some pics in my gallery of my truck hitched up to my boat (2900#'s) if you want to check it out. With the boat only it sits level. At 1.75" of lift, you should be able to get the alignment within spec. For an AAL, get one that is only 1" of lift, otherwise the ride will get a little stiff.

I thought you had the Drakars? (OME Leaf Springs?).. I have seen your ride with the boat, looks AWESOME! That's my goal, although I do NOT want to buy TC UCA so I think 285/75/16 is out.. My rear is exactly 1.75" higher than the front. 2.5 in front & 1" in back or 1.75 in front is swell for me. Can you please do me the favor of Linking me to the right AAL for the rear? Every kit I see has a "short" looking AAL and leads me in the direction of blocks. You know I have been looking..

If I am going 3" or great, OME shocks with OME springs (Your Advice, and I will follow if that direction is taken).. I am really interesting in the 5100's now.. seems cheap, and adjustable so I can play with it. Can they be adjusted on the fly?? please let me know.. one more dang inch in back the via AAL with the TSB susp. would be... relaxing


Thank you Chris!

-Sam

[chris4x4]

Originally Posted by SamSter0077

I thought you had the Drakars? (OME Leaf Springs?).. I have seen your ride with the boat, looks AWESOME! That's my goal, although I do NOT want to buy TC UCA so I think 285/75/16 is out.. My rear is exactly 1.75" higher than the front. 2.5 in front & 1" in back or 1.75 in front is swell for me. Can you please do me the favor of Linking me to the right AAL for the rear? Every kit I see has a "short" looking AAL and leads me in the direction of blocks. You know I have been looking..

If I am going 3" or great, OME shocks with OME springs (Your Advice, and I will follow if that direction is taken).. I am really interesting in the 5100's now.. seems cheap, and adjustable so I can play with it. Can they be adjusted on the fly?? please let me know.. one more dang inch in back the via AAL with the TSB susp. would be... relaxing


Thank you Chris!

-Sam

The 5100's cant be adjusted "on the fly". You have to take them out to adjust them. Not a big deal, and you will more than likely leave them where you set them and be quite happy. I hadd a spring shopp make my AAL's for me as I wanted the best ride, and a little more arch on the driverside to account for extra weight. It was about $60.00 for both sides and they did a splendid job. If you dont have a local spring shop, or you dont feel comfortable going down that route, check out Ranch. I have heard good things about their AAL's. I'll check online and see what I can dig up for ya.

[SamSter0077]

Originally Posted by chris4x4

The 5100's cant be adjusted "on the fly". You have to take them out to adjust them. Not a big deal, and you will more than likely leave them where you set them and be quite happy. I hadd a spring shopp make my AAL's for me as I wanted the best ride, and a little more arch on the driverside to account for extra weight. It was about $60.00 for both sides and they did a splendid job. If you dont have a local spring shop, or you dont feel comfortable going down that route, check out Ranch. I have heard good things about their AAL's. I'll check online and see what I can dig up for ya.

Thanks Chris

[YCPaul530]

Originally Posted by chris4x4

Ummmm............your running 885's with spacers? Your ride must be pretty stiff! 33's are still gonna rub a little, but it is no big deal. 885's give more lift than the 5100 adjustables.

Nope, everything is laying in my garage brand new, the 885's and 5100's, and wheels! I want to wait until I have everything ready and then get it all done at once. Thats why I'm debating what to do! will I need spacers? I have no clue, this is all new to me! I'll probly go with the 885's and AAL with 5100's in the rear...This seems like the best from what I've read...

[chris4x4]

Originally Posted by YCPaul530

Nope, everything is laying in my garage brand new, the 885's and 5100's, and wheels! I want to wait until I have everything ready and then get it all done at once. Thats why I'm debating what to do! will I need spacers? I have no clue, this is all new to me! I'll probly go with the 885's and AAL with 5100's in the rear...This seems like the best from what I've read...

Ok. The 885's and AAL in the rear with the 5100's sounds good to me. What about front shocks?