Mike "Wuzzy121". Rest in peace, brother

Go Back   Tacoma World Forums > Tacoma Garage > Suspension

Notices

Can a 1.5" AAL be modified into a 1" AAL?

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-22-2011, 07:27 PM   #1
BenWA [OP] BenWA is offline
Senior Member
BenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
BenWA's Avatar
Joined: Feb 2009, #13977
Location: Seattle @ 0.9 Mach
Gender: Dude
Posts: 1,556
BenWA's Tacoma Gallery
Can a 1.5" AAL be modified into a 1" AAL?

Such as by shortening it/cutting off some length from each end? Or would shortening it muck up the ride quality/stiffness somehow?

Trying to figure a way to get .75" or 1" rear lift without using blocks. So far none of the spring shops that I have called sound like they know what they are doing or talking about regarding making custom AAL's for a Taco, so that doesn't seem to be an option.

So I wonder if there is a way to modify a 1.5" AAL to provide slightly less lift. Anyone have knowledge or experience with this?



p.s., I'm running 5100's set at .85" in front, which is why I don't want a full 1.5" in back.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2011, 07:40 PM   #2
Member
armyairforce89 is on a distinguished road
Army: Sgt. A Co. 1/106 Aviation
Joined: Jan 2010, #30205
Location: Illinois
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 42
armyairforce89's Tacoma Gallery
go 1.5

Just use the 1.5, after a few months it will settle anyway. Might start out a little higher than you want, but in the end it will settle in where your aim is.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2011, 09:55 PM   #3
Senior Member
Tim A has a brilliant futureTim A has a brilliant futureTim A has a brilliant futureTim A has a brilliant futureTim A has a brilliant futureTim A has a brilliant futureTim A has a brilliant futureTim A has a brilliant futureTim A has a brilliant futureTim A has a brilliant futureTim A has a brilliant future
 
Tim A's Avatar
Air Force: TSgt
Joined: Dec 2009, #28169
Location: Montana
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 449
Tim A's Tacoma Gallery
One half of an inch doesn't really matter does it? FWIW, I would not feel comfortable altering the AAL.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2011, 10:31 PM   #4
Pabst Blue Ribbon on ice
BAMFTACO is one of the sharper tools in the shedBAMFTACO is one of the sharper tools in the shedBAMFTACO is one of the sharper tools in the shedBAMFTACO is one of the sharper tools in the shedBAMFTACO is one of the sharper tools in the shedBAMFTACO is one of the sharper tools in the shedBAMFTACO is one of the sharper tools in the shedBAMFTACO is one of the sharper tools in the shedBAMFTACO is one of the sharper tools in the shedBAMFTACO is one of the sharper tools in the shedBAMFTACO is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
BAMFTACO's Avatar
Name: Edward
Joined: Feb 2010, #30639
Location: Malibu,ca
Gender: Guy
Posts: 9,261
BAMFTACO's Tacoma Gallery
Leave the aal at 1.5 and it will settle down after a while and if it sits to high in the rear just lift the front little higher
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2011, 08:38 PM   #5
BenWA [OP] BenWA is offline
Senior Member
BenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
BenWA's Avatar
Joined: Feb 2009, #13977
Location: Seattle @ 0.9 Mach
Gender: Dude
Posts: 1,556
BenWA's Tacoma Gallery
Is there any way I could change the arch radius of a set of 1.5" AAL's by compressing them somehow to make them closer to 1"?

Of course I would have no way of knowing how much to flatten them to give the desired result.

Guess I'll just run 1.5" AAL's and sit a little more ass-high than I want to.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2011, 08:57 PM   #7
BenWA [OP] BenWA is offline
Senior Member
BenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
BenWA's Avatar
Joined: Feb 2009, #13977
Location: Seattle @ 0.9 Mach
Gender: Dude
Posts: 1,556
BenWA's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fluffymonkey View Post
have a fat chick sit in the bed
Would that significantly reduce my mpg's?
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2011, 04:46 AM   #8
Old & Forgetful
Janster is one of the sharper tools in the shedJanster is one of the sharper tools in the shedJanster is one of the sharper tools in the shedJanster is one of the sharper tools in the shedJanster is one of the sharper tools in the shedJanster is one of the sharper tools in the shedJanster is one of the sharper tools in the shedJanster is one of the sharper tools in the shedJanster is one of the sharper tools in the shedJanster is one of the sharper tools in the shedJanster is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
Janster's Avatar
Name: Jandy
Joined: Mar 2007, #1138
Location: Lancaster, PA
Age: 46
Gender: Female
Posts: 12,838
Janster's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenWA View Post
Is there any way I could change the arch radius of a set of 1.5" AAL's by compressing them somehow to make them closer to 1"?

Of course I would have no way of knowing how much to flatten them to give the desired result.

Guess I'll just run 1.5" AAL's and sit a little more ass-high than I want to.
In most cases, if the AAL is advertised to give you 1.5" - then it'll give you approx 1.5" after settling. When you first install it....it could give you 2" or more.

Put 200lbs in the bed for a month and that'll help it settle down.

Besides that..... 1/2" isn't much at all. You won't even notice it.

Arching leaf springs can be done but its expensive and (for the most part) they don't hold their shape over time and can sag. Re-arching an AAL would be even worse...and the end result might be worse than if you left them alone.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2011, 07:54 AM   #9
BenWA [OP] BenWA is offline
Senior Member
BenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
BenWA's Avatar
Joined: Feb 2009, #13977
Location: Seattle @ 0.9 Mach
Gender: Dude
Posts: 1,556
BenWA's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Janster View Post
In most cases, if the AAL is advertised to give you 1.5" - then it'll give you approx 1.5" after settling. When you first install it....it could give you 2" or more.

Put 200lbs in the bed for a month and that'll help it settle down.
Crap. I def don't want 2"! Do you happen to know if there are certain AAL makes that underexaggerate vs. overexaggerate their claims of lift height?
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2011, 08:00 AM   #10
Tebow Apologist
Bobcat is one of the sharper tools in the shedBobcat is one of the sharper tools in the shedBobcat is one of the sharper tools in the shedBobcat is one of the sharper tools in the shedBobcat is one of the sharper tools in the shedBobcat is one of the sharper tools in the shedBobcat is one of the sharper tools in the shedBobcat is one of the sharper tools in the shedBobcat is one of the sharper tools in the shedBobcat is one of the sharper tools in the shedBobcat is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
Bobcat's Avatar
Joined: Jun 2009, #19116
Location: Montana
Gender: Male
Posts: 422
Bobcat's Tacoma Gallery
Get a 34" inch one from Fat Bobs Garage and use a cutting torch to take a few inches off each side. That should accomplish your goal. Wheeler's aal is only 24 inches so even if you had to cut off as much as 10 inches it would still be ok.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2011, 11:34 AM   #11
BenWA [OP] BenWA is offline
Senior Member
BenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
BenWA's Avatar
Joined: Feb 2009, #13977
Location: Seattle @ 0.9 Mach
Gender: Dude
Posts: 1,556
BenWA's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat View Post
Get a 34" inch one from Fat Bobs Garage and use a cutting torch to take a few inches off each side. That should accomplish your goal. Wheeler's aal is only 24 inches so even if you had to cut off as much as 10 inches it would still be ok.
Thanks for the info Bobcat.

I decided to order the wheelers 3 leaf aal, as I have done some searching and read a number of posts that claim that the 3 leaf typically provids slightly less than 1.5" for double cabs. We shall see. Worst case scenario is I have to put a fat chick in my bed.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2011, 11:37 AM   #12
Senior Member
macgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
macgyver's Avatar
Name: Brad
Joined: Aug 2009, #21173
Location: Canton, GA
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,567
macgyver's Tacoma Gallery
Why not just raise the 5100's to 1.75? Seems easier and cheaper (costs nothing)...

When in doubt use the KISS method.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2011, 12:10 PM   #13
BenWA [OP] BenWA is offline
Senior Member
BenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
BenWA's Avatar
Joined: Feb 2009, #13977
Location: Seattle @ 0.9 Mach
Gender: Dude
Posts: 1,556
BenWA's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by macgyver View Post
Why not just raise the 5100's to 1.75? Seems easier and cheaper (costs nothing)...

When in doubt use the KISS method.
I wish I could. It's a long story, but I have front diff vibe issues (shot diff bearing) and 1.75" would make them unbearable. I have minor vibes at even .85" but they are slight and intermittent enough that I can live with them.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2011, 12:19 PM   #14
Senior Member
macgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
macgyver's Avatar
Name: Brad
Joined: Aug 2009, #21173
Location: Canton, GA
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,567
macgyver's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenWA View Post
I wish I could. It's a long story, but I have front diff vibe issues (shot diff bearing) and 1.75" would make them unbearable. I have minor vibes at even .85" but they are slight and intermittent enough that I can live with them.
How do you know? Are you assuming here or have you tried?
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2011, 12:22 PM   #15
BenWA [OP] BenWA is offline
Senior Member
BenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
BenWA's Avatar
Joined: Feb 2009, #13977
Location: Seattle @ 0.9 Mach
Gender: Dude
Posts: 1,556
BenWA's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by macgyver View Post
How do you know? Are you assuming here or have you tried?
I'm assuming.....but I had severe vibes at 2.5" and currently have minor vibes at .85", so I'm guessing that 1.75" would be something in between. I definitely don't want to have worse vibes than I have right now.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2011, 12:28 PM   #16
Senior Member
macgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shedmacgyver is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
macgyver's Avatar
Name: Brad
Joined: Aug 2009, #21173
Location: Canton, GA
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,567
macgyver's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenWA View Post
I'm assuming.....but I had severe vibes at 2.5" and currently have minor vibes at .85", so I'm guessing that 1.75" would be something in between. I definitely don't want to have worse vibes than I have right now.
I have minor vibes at 2.5. Are you sure they're coming from the front? I can feel mine in the floor/seat which means mine are coming from the rear end/driveshaft
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2011, 01:23 PM   #17
BenWA [OP] BenWA is offline
Senior Member
BenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
BenWA's Avatar
Joined: Feb 2009, #13977
Location: Seattle @ 0.9 Mach
Gender: Dude
Posts: 1,556
BenWA's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by macgyver View Post
I have minor vibes at 2.5. Are you sure they're coming from the front? I can feel mine in the floor/seat which means mine are coming from the rear end/driveshaft
Yeah, I'm sure. I haven't done anything to lift the back yet and the vibes appeared immediately after lifting the front, and then disappeared immediately after I temporarily unlifted the front back to stock ride height.

These are the types of vibes that disappear immediately upon switching to 4Hi -- classic front diff diagnosis.

I may try out the 1.75" setting when I have some spare time. One of the main things preventing me from trying it is the cost of an alignment.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2011, 06:17 PM   #18
Senior Member
Skunkman is a jewel in the roughSkunkman is a jewel in the roughSkunkman is a jewel in the rough
 
Skunkman's Avatar
Army:
Joined: Sep 2010, #44012
Location: Syracuse - Tug Hill
Gender: Male
Posts: 428
Skunkman's Tacoma Gallery
I put 5100's on mine, set at 2.5 in the front and it gave me the exact lift as claimed. Then we put the non tsb ToyTec AAL in the rear,it should have given us a 2 inch lift, but instead,it ended at 3.75 inches. That was with an ARE contractor cap, all my work equipment, and two fiberglass ladders on top, I figure over 500 pounds total. So for the last month I added 200 pound of sand bags to the tailgate area, trying to get the darn things to settle in. I just measured earlier tonight, still above 3.75 total lift on that AAL, any ideas how long it takes to settle, I hate running around with 200 pounds of sand in the back.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2011, 07:29 PM   #19
BenWA [OP] BenWA is offline
Senior Member
BenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shedBenWA is one of the sharper tools in the shed
 
BenWA's Avatar
Joined: Feb 2009, #13977
Location: Seattle @ 0.9 Mach
Gender: Dude
Posts: 1,556
BenWA's Tacoma Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by macgyver View Post
How do you know? Are you assuming here or have you tried?
Hey macgyver, I bumped my struts up to 1.75" tonight... vibes are slightly (but not substantially) worse than they were at .85". I definitely can live with them.

Plus I haven't gotten an alignment yet, so they may be slighlty better after I get the alignment done tomorrow.

Thanks for the kick in the butt to give that height setting a try.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FS or trade: Enkei Deep Six 18" wheels, TRD offroad 16" wheels, toytec 1.5" AAL flyingface Buy / Sell / Trade 36 04-23-2013 12:52 PM
Opinions: 'ride quality' tsb-aal + tsb vs. 2" aal bluevan99 Suspension 10 04-08-2010 11:54 AM
Billy 2.5" and 1.5" AAL installed with 32" r12rex Suspension 20 11-07-2009 12:35 AM
3" All Pro AAL or 2.75" OME... which one is "better" DrRabbitFurHead 2nd Gen. Tacomas 1 07-26-2009 12:24 PM
FS: Procomp AAL and 3" Front Spacers (3" Lift Kit) RememberMorrison Buy / Sell / Trade 10 03-29-2009 04:46 PM


Copyright © 2014 Tacoma Forum. Tacoma World is not owned by, or affiliated with Toyota Motor Corporation.