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Upper Control Arm Questions / Poll

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by pcledrew, Jan 29, 2011.

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Which UCA's are best fit with Toytec Ultimate?

Poll closed Feb 28, 2011.
  1. Total Chaos

    34 vote(s)
    54.0%
  2. Light Racing

    29 vote(s)
    46.0%
  1. Jan 29, 2011 at 9:10 PM
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    pcledrew

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    Going to be installing a Toytec Ultimate in the near future, wondering what peoples opinions are, and why, to choose either the Total Chaos UCA or the Light Racing UCA.

    If you feel the need to respond to this with "use the search function" or "try searching dumbass" then do me a favor and leave the keyboard alone for a night. Thanks.
     
  2. Jan 30, 2011 at 1:42 AM
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    KalamaKid

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    same shit as everyone else
    LR's are what I have! There good enough! Some people will push the uniball UCA's on you. They are great dont get me wrong. But... They are better for longer travel lifts. If you have the Ultimate lift, all you need is the LRs!
     
  3. Jan 30, 2011 at 1:47 AM
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    RelentlessFab

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    I vote LR's. They're adjustable vs non adjustable TC's, and the sealed ball joint is no maintenance, plus the LR's are cheaper. People will tell ya that you want the TC's because of the increased angles they'll work at vs a ball joint.... well the LR's have more travel than the factory UCA's and i've never found the travel limit of the LRs even with a top spacer as part of my lift. They've actually compressed so far up, they've scuffed my inner fender.
    LR gets my vote hands down.
     
  4. Jan 30, 2011 at 2:20 AM
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    KalamaKid

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    same shit as everyone else
    Yep! What he said! I've had the toytec coils for 2+ years with at least 1000 miles off road! They'll do you just fine!
     
  5. Jan 30, 2011 at 5:48 PM
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  6. Feb 1, 2011 at 6:51 PM
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    chris4x4

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    The bump stop limits up travel...Not the Ball joint on the UCA. If your running larger tires, with the OEM bump stop, your gonna hit the bottom of the fender if you stuff the tire, regardless of what UCA's you use.
     
  7. Feb 1, 2011 at 7:04 PM
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    08PRELB

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    I have the Toytech Ultimate lift and i ran my stock UCA for a while and i just recently got Buildt Right UCA's and man what a difference they make. I have heard good things about both options so i would say go with what you can afford but personally i think a uniball UCA is a better option.
     
  8. Feb 1, 2011 at 7:10 PM
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    Hugebergen

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    What about camburgs ball joint uca? Have you looked at them? IMO I think they look good.
     
  9. Feb 1, 2011 at 7:10 PM
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    colinb17

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    what eric said.

    i have extended travel Icons, and the shock fully extends before the ball joint reaches it's limmit. you will get more travel with either over stock, but you will not get more travel with the TC over the LR.
     
  10. Feb 1, 2011 at 7:14 PM
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    rcfreak201

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    so with camburg, TC, and all the Long travel brands, all your paying for is a ball joint that needs maintenance every few months and looks? im sure they are tougher but if they perform the same as LR or Built Right UCAs whats the advantage? just curious because im wanting to upgrade my UCAs and wanna know the advantage to the "Big Company" products, thanks:D
     
  11. Feb 1, 2011 at 7:22 PM
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    the uniballs are stronger, but a couple of things are assumed from the OP. he's going with the toytec ultimate lift kit, so we know he's not racing, and more than likely not wheeling every single weekend. the LR balljoint is massive. he will not break it. so in his case, the uniball would be partially for looks. the uniballs also take a little maintenance, and most daily drivers may not want to have to worry about relubing a unibal every so often. so that's why i'd recomend the op get the LR.

    my trucks been on 3 wheels, 2 wheels, and even no wheels, and the LR arms have been great. some day i'll upgreade to a unibal, but i have more important priorities on truck list lol.

    however, if you have the extra $200, don't mind the little bit of maintenance, and actually need the strength, then i'd recomend the TC
     
  12. Feb 1, 2011 at 7:27 PM
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    chris4x4

    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

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    Goin on 3+ years of use on the TC UCA, and the original Unibal it came with. The TC UCA is much more UCA than any one "needs", and the LR's are a great product. You cant go wrong with either one. I prefer to have a greasable UCA over one that is non servicable, which is why I chose the TC's.
     
  13. Feb 1, 2011 at 7:30 PM
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    colinb17 If at first you don't succeed, don't try skydiving

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    i was going to mention that. i'd wager that you're going to break other susspension components before you break just about any aftermarket UCA.
     
  14. Feb 1, 2011 at 7:31 PM
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    chris4x4

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    Yeah, the spindle is the weak link in the front.
     
  15. Feb 1, 2011 at 7:33 PM
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    colinb17 If at first you don't succeed, don't try skydiving

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    and for a mere $50 you can have spindle gussets. plus welding cost if you can't do it yourself. i'm not sure why more people don't have them. it's very cheap insurance.
     
  16. Feb 1, 2011 at 9:48 PM
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    hey..ill let you know how it rides. I finally pieced my setup together.

    1.) Ultimate Lift Kit
    2.) Total Chaos UCAs
    3.) 285/65/18

    and since everyone love pics. heres a pic

    2011-01-26_11-42-36_123_3b6578150eb1eb7fd600bfec29b50cf5f7935f11.jpg
     
  17. Feb 1, 2011 at 9:55 PM
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    colin and chris, thanks for the info! i think whenever i decide to drop the money ill probably go with total chaos UCAs but not anytime soon i needa do more research :D haha
     
  18. Feb 1, 2011 at 10:22 PM
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    I just bought some used camburg uniball UCA but they must be the old style since they dont have the recessed 12 point bolt. Oh well for now not gonna install till i hear back about my LT these might go up for sale.
     
  19. Feb 2, 2011 at 7:12 AM
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    you can never do enough research :)
     
  20. Feb 2, 2011 at 8:27 AM
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    I have DSM UCAs. Now, i haven't installed them yet but they are look incredebly well made and i'm loving the squared up look. They look very bad ass
     

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