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Old 07-26-2013, 08:31 AM   #141
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Figured it was something like that. Guess I'll try and find a small pack of pond liner. Quick searches on-line and I'm only finding stuff that is over $100. Might just stick a bike tube in there for now if I can't find any pond liner easily.
Head to a local tire dealer and see if they have any truck/tractor tubes that are junk. They're a lot thicker than bike tubes. I have a chunk from the garage I used to work at
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Figured it was something like that. Guess I'll try and find a small pack of pond liner. Quick searches on-line and I'm only finding stuff that is over $100. Might just stick a bike tube in there for now if I can't find any pond liner easily.
I have some leftovers if you need them. (for a few bucks)
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I have some leftovers if you need them. (for a few bucks)
I'll let you know if I can't find anything. I'm sure in a town the size of San Antonio, I can find someone who sells it by the foot.
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OZ...how did you work the pond liner up in there??? Jack up the truck on stands and stick a screwdriver in there???
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OZ...how did you work the pond liner up in there??? Jack up the truck on stands and stick a screwdriver in there???
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I've experimented a couple of things. Mine was the leaves themselves, not the bushings. Cheapest fix seems to be lots of grease between each leaf, full length (as best I could without loosing u-bolts anyway).

For passenger side, I just used a big screw driver to pry a gap in the leaves and then used a needle adapter on grease gun to pump grease between each leaf. Jumped on rear bumper to help smoosh out excess and wiped it off. After a day or so of driving, the grease had worked in to all the spaces and it only squeeks once in a while now. Going on 4 months now. Didn't do anything to driver side at that time and it still squeeks a lot.

This evening, for driver side, I put some 3/16 inch thick plastic on the leaf that doesn't already have a wear pad on it. Then jumped on the bumper and no squeeks at all. Had to put a pad both front and back between the same 2 leaves to completely get rid of the squeek. I can't find my epoxy and I don't want to lose the pads so I took them out and just greased it like I had done on the other side. Those pads are heavy duty vibration isolation pads from McMaster.

I had used A LOT of grease on the passenger side. Used only a little on driver side tonight so we'll see what happens after few days. I may end up packing more in there this weekend if needed.
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I've experimented a couple of things. Mine was the leaves themselves, not the bushings. Cheapest fix seems to be lots of grease between each leaf, full length (as best I could without loosing u-bolts anyway).

For passenger side, I just used a big screw driver to pry a gap in the leaves and then used a needle adapter on grease gun to pump grease between each leaf. Jumped on rear bumper to help smoosh out excess and wiped it off. After a day or so of driving, the grease had worked in to all the spaces and it only squeeks once in a while now. Going on 4 months now. Didn't do anything to driver side at that time and it still squeeks a lot.

This evening, for driver side, I put some 3/16 inch thick plastic on the leaf that doesn't already have a wear pad on it. Then jumped on the bumper and no squeeks at all. Had to put a pad both front and back between the same 2 leaves to completely get rid of the squeek. I can't find my epoxy and I don't want to lose the pads so I took them out and just greased it like I had done on the other side. Those pads are heavy duty vibration isolation pads from McMaster.

I had used A LOT of grease on the passenger side. Used only a little on driver side tonight so we'll see what happens after few days. I may end up packing more in there this weekend if needed.
Dealership did the exact same thing to my springs... Greased the Hell out of them.. Looked like your pic... Lasted 1 day...
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I've experimented a couple of things. Mine was the leaves themselves, not the bushings. Cheapest fix seems to be lots of grease between each leaf, full length (as best I could without loosing u-bolts anyway).

For passenger side, I just used a big screw driver to pry a gap in the leaves and then used a needle adapter on grease gun to pump grease between each leaf. Jumped on rear bumper to help smoosh out excess and wiped it off. After a day or so of driving, the grease had worked in to all the spaces and it only squeeks once in a while now. Going on 4 months now. Didn't do anything to driver side at that time and it still squeeks a lot.

This evening, for driver side, I put some 3/16 inch thick plastic on the leaf that doesn't already have a wear pad on it. Then jumped on the bumper and no squeeks at all. Had to put a pad both front and back between the same 2 leaves to completely get rid of the squeek. I can't find my epoxy and I don't want to lose the pads so I took them out and just greased it like I had done on the other side. Those pads are heavy duty vibration isolation pads from McMaster.

I had used A LOT of grease on the passenger side. Used only a little on driver side tonight so we'll see what happens after few days. I may end up packing more in there this weekend if needed.
The majority of people having squeak issues is not the bushing but from that leaf you put the plastic in. Oz already figured that out for us and how to fix it.
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The majority of people having squeak issues is not the bushing but from that leaf you put the plastic in. Oz already figured that out for us and how to fix it.
Actually that and the leaf above that is where most of my noise was coming from
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Actually that and the leaf above that is where most of my noise was coming from
Meh, semantics! Too bad you can't change the title of the thread to "How to fix your squeaky dakars."
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I am going to try this stuff

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That's EPDM pond liner , same thing I used
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Nice find! I've been holding off on doing this because I'm too lazy to hunt down the pond liner in affordable quantities. Just ordered this repair kit. I'll install this weekend!
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I think this stuff is awesome for doing this. It comes with one sheet of EPDM with some sort of adhesive already on one side since it was made for patching pond liners. I just cut that into strips. We'll see how well the adhesive holds up but it's gotta be better than just sticking it between the leafs and hoping it doesn't move. I still folded it down so it's pinched between the 2 sets of leafs for extra security.
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Anyone try UHMWPE tape?
It's cheap and seems durable on any projects I've used it on so far.
Have had a strip of it along my mountain bike frame for years to protect the metal from chain slapping. It's seen plenty of mud & oil without degrading.

I don't know if the adhesive will hold up under the heat and pressure of our springs in the summer but if it does, this stuff should do the trick. If the grease stops working for my Dakars, I either try this or just epoxy in the vibration damper pads I posted pics of earlier.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#76445a761/=o854vn
linking to 1/2" wide just b/c that's the part number I had available. They make it wider of course.
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Mine is more of a creak and it's in the front hanger.
A shot of white lithium grease between the hanger and spring eye and I'm good for 2-4 weeks
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Anyone on the mainland find EPDM rubber pond liner by the foot??? Hawaii only has it in large sheets.. (that I have found so far)..
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Mine is more of a creak and it's in the front hanger.
You sure. ?
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Anyone on the mainland find EPDM rubber pond liner by the foot??? Hawaii only has it in large sheets.. (that I have found so far)..
Raycie, just buy the kit linked above. Comes with more than enough for this fix and some of it even has self adhesive already on it. Mine's been holding up great so far.
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