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Pros and Cons of Sway bar removal on 2nd gen

View Poll Results: Should i remove my swaybar?
Hell yes take it off! 70 53.44%
You wont really see a difference. 10 7.63%
I wouldnt do it. 41 31.30%
Whatever you do dont take it off! 10 7.63%
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Old 07-14-2011, 07:28 PM   #1
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Pros and Cons of Sway bar removal on 2nd gen

So i did some searching and couldnt find what i was looking for. So my question is just as the title says, what are the pros and cons of removing the swaybar? I know you get more flex offroad but are there any more benefits? Also whats the negative side of the arguement, any "holy sh!t" moments when having a swaybar would have been beneficial?

Thanks for the help guys. Also adding a pole to make it easier.
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Old 07-14-2011, 07:36 PM   #2
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So i did some searching and couldnt find what i was looking for. So my question is just as the title says, what are the pros and cons of removing the swaybar? I know you get more flex offroad but are there any more benefits? Also whats the negative side of the arguement, any "holy sh!t" moments when having a swaybar would have been beneficial?

Thanks for the help guys. Also adding a pole to make it easier.
I voted pull it off, but i'm a Xrunner haha
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Old 07-14-2011, 07:37 PM   #3
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people talk about it like you're gonna roll the fuck over and die. i've had it off for what seems like forever now and drive 2hrs everyday. haven't had one "oh shit" moment. the ride feels better too. granted it's a bit weird at first, but you get used to it very quickly.

it's not like you can't ever put it back on..it takes 10min. take it off, drive it around, if it's too much, put it back on
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I think maybe the search button only works for you
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I think maybe the search button only works for you
I didn't even search. I scrolled down with my mouse's click wheel.
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I didn't even search. I scrolled down with my mouse's click wheel.
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try it out. While not near other cars, do some abrupt lane change maneuvers. Report back on whether or not your vehicle stability control freaks out and thinks you're about to roll over.
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:07 PM   #10
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i dnt have one i took it off when i had my 6" lift and 35s put on i get alot my flex and i dnt tell to much of a diff with out it on road iv taken turns at 30 to 35 and sharp not once did i feel like id flip or loose control
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:10 PM   #11
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you will have more sway and no bar.
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:12 PM   #12
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Yeah. The concern isn't when you gradually work your way into a high speed ramp turn that generates a lot of Gs pushing you against the side of the truck.

The concern is when you make a sudden directional change maneuver going from zero to say .7 G, more or less instantly forcing a quick and sudden "sway" into the body which has to follow the wheels and chassis that just changed directions under it

So if you do *that* and you're happy with the result - I say more power to you. Mine stays on. The philosophy on my rig is "daily driver sometimes driven on pretty tough trails." Removing the sway bar seems to me to be crossing the line over to "my hardcore trail rig that I still drive on the street."
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i took mine off but i did it to install my lift and high clearance skid from all poo. when it was in stock trim and i removed i did not like how much body roll was introduced into normal driving. since the lift was installed though it handles like it was when it was stock i was not sure what to expect but, the stiffer coil over set up of the lift kit mitigated alot of the body roll despite it having a higher center of gravity.

like moose said try it out it only takes a couple of minutes to either remove or install it just do it where you have some room if some thing does happen to go awry. btw mine never set off the traction control at all and i tugged pretty hard on the wheel a few times.
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Yeah, but you're still running those 700 lb ProComp springs on your regular cab, right?
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So i did some searching and couldnt find what i was looking for. So my question is just as the title says, what are the pros and cons of removing the swaybar? I know you get more flex offroad but are there any more benefits? Also whats the negative side of the arguement, any "holy sh!t" moments when having a swaybar would have been beneficial?

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Depends, couple ways to look at it, if you just offroad a little or once in a awhile & are on stock susp. I'd say leave it on.. If you've done a susp. lift & offroad then absolutely take it off so you can benefit from all the extra travel..

I've had mine off for over a year or so & it'll never go back on...
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i dnt have one i took it off when i had my 6" lift and 35s put on i get alot my flex and i dnt tell to much of a diff with out it on road iv taken turns at 30 to 35 and sharp not once did i feel like id flip or loose control
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i just removed my sway bar when i put my lift on, and it seems a little softer on the corners and when i go back and forth. But i also added bigger tires so im sure that doesn't help. I feel tottaly safe and dont think i will put it back on.
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A suspension lift raises the truck's roll center. That combined with the (usually) stiffer springs means you won't notice much increased roll if you take the swaybar off under normal conditions. From what I can tell, though, transient response is worse. The truck may roll over in the moose test (swerving one way, then quickly swerving back) if the swaybar is off.

Hilux failing moose test (note the driver cutting the wheel left to save it). A stock Taco would never do this even with VSC off.

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Odd coincidence that that video is called the "Moose Test."
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