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Old 09-29-2011, 06:38 PM   #2
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I like my Dakars , but they can be stiff when unloaded .

My 200lb Leer cap seems to be just enough weight to engage them and they are a bit smoother
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So far I've heard good things about the Expo leaf packs made for All-Pro by some southeast Asian company.

I'll be going with Dakars with AALs myself; ordering 'em next week.
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So far I've heard good things about the Expo leaf packs made for All-Pro by some southeast Asian company.

I'll be going with Dakars with AALs myself; ordering 'em next week.
lol...dakars with an aal? how much lift you looking for?
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:05 PM   #7
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do they flex well? everyone talks about the allpros being great flexers...i have my spare and a steel plate rear bumper along with some tools and highlift so i have about 300lbs of extra weight at all times with me....
I've got Dakars, and with 300 lbs they ride great.
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:06 PM   #8
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where you guys finding the best prices?
also i have 5100's out back should i get shock extensions? i dont have the extra cash for new shocks ontop of new springs :/
you will need shock extenders or new extended travel rear shocks once you go with a new leaf pack
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:06 PM   #9
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lol...dakars with an aal? how much lift you looking for?
The d29xl is the OME AAL for the Dakars .

It adds approx 5/8" of lift
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The d29xl is the OME AAL for the Dakars .

It adds approx 5/8" of lift
It's really an overload spring for heavy loads though. 5/8" is probably the thickness of the leaf itself if I had to guess.
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:14 PM   #11
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It's really an overload spring for heavy loads though. 5/8" is probably the thickness of the leaf itself if I had to guess.
I don't think it is just an additional overload , and I am pretty sure it installs as an additional leaf

In fact Sierrahesky just had his up for sale and they are identical to the regular leafs in the pack , not the overloads
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:21 PM   #13
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I only have experience with the allpros but I love my expedition pack. the ride height empty isn't as much as I thought it would be and the ride is better than my old shot leafs and aal. It can also handle a load very well. I'd say 300lbs they would ride amazing, but at 0lbs they ride damn good.
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lol...dakars with an aal? how much lift you looking for?
3 to 4 inches.

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where you guys finding the best prices?
also i have 5100's out back should i get shock extensions? i dont have the extra cash for new shocks ontop of new springs :/
Amazon has them at the same prices as everyone else, but with free shipping. That ends up being less out of pocket total than anywhere else I've shopped because shipping is super expensive.

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It's really an overload spring for heavy loads though. 5/8" is probably the thickness of the leaf itself if I had to guess.
Negative. It is an add-in leaf for increased spring rate and an additional 15mm of lift, per OME's website.

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I don't think it is just an additional overload , and I am pretty sure it installs as an additional leaf

In fact Sierrahesky just had his up for sale and they are identical to the regular leafs in the pack , not the overloads
This is correct. It adds load capacity and lift.
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jandrews-thanx for all the help...how you liking that front bumper? i love it..what did that run you if you dont mind me asking...i couldnt find it on ato's posts or site..feel free to pm me if you like
No problem. I can't say enough good things about that Hybrid. And it's built like a tank. If you compare it to pictures of the old AP Hybrid:

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/buy...r-575-a-2.html

You'll notice the AP doesn't have anywhere near the kind of reinforcement and bracing that the ATO model does. Yes, it's lighter, but it's not gonna take punishment.

As for pricing, PM Kevin about that one. He was finalizing pricing for that bumper design during my build. I essentially told him to do what he needed to do to get it right and bill me. My total cost was for 3 PIAA lights and the bumper, and I don't know what portion was which.

I can say it will be competitive with the pricing of other bumpers on the market
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Negative. It is an add-in leaf for increased spring rate and an additional 15mm of lift, per OME's website.

This is correct. It adds load capacity and lift.
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I don't think it is just an additional overload , and I am pretty sure it installs as an additional leaf

In fact Sierrahesky just had his up for sale and they are identical to the regular leafs in the pack , not the overloads
Whoopsie, my bad.
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I went with All-Pro expos, only because I have a 200+lb shell that I keep on all the time (Got nowhere to put it if I took it off). All-Pro IS notorious for shoddy customer service, and my experience with them was probably 4 out of 10. Haven't installed them yet, planning on it this month, remind me and I'll let you know what I think.
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