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Old 01-25-2012, 04:53 PM   #1
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Decided to make a thread for mid travel setups . Feel free to ask any questions you might have about products , installation , and performance of a MT setup.

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Suspension Mods- Fox 2.5 IFP extended travel coilovers, Fox 2.0 extended travel FJC rear piggyback shock, Icon 3 leaf progressive mini AAL pack, Total Chaos UCAs.

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Cool.
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Is there a way to get more travel from the rear? What setups/travel numbers have been reached with bolt on upgrades. (springs, extended shocks, shackle flip kit)
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:09 PM   #3
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do you really notice any difference between piggybacks and resis with a mt setup? seems like you could save a lotta money and probably not lose much performance...
With a 2.5" front coilover, you arent going to be able to push it hard enough to over heat the shocks, thus possibly needing a remote/piggy back resi. Your more likely to heat the rear shock to a hotter temp than the front.
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Cool.
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Is there a way to get more travel from the rear? What setups/travel numbers have been reached with bolt on upgrades. (springs, extended shocks, shackle flip kit)
Ha ! Good Post to start off the thread . I'm actually currently interested in that at the moment as well . I currently run a set of fox 2.0 piggy backs with stock leafs . I'm looking into upgrading my leafs to a deaver j66 pack .
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:15 PM   #5
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i should have worded that better- is remote resi really needed or can a piggyback be used with negligible drop in performance on a mid travel setup?
but it is good to know resis arent needed at all in the front
I havent been able to compare a piggy back to a remote resi side by side. My set up (Icon 2.5" front, and 2.5" remote resi rears) when pushed as hard as I can, heat up to within 2 or 3* of each other. Im thinking a 2" rear may get about 10* to 15* hotter, given the lower oil capacity, and cooling surface area of the shock body.
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Ha ! Good Post to start off the thread . I'm actually currently interested in that at the moment as well . I currently run a set of fox 2.0 piggy backs with stock leafs . I'm looking into upgrading my leafs to a deaver j66 pack .
I'm about to install the Allpro standard pack this coming week. I'll take measurements of the new shock lenght and leaf droop, It would be good to know what are the average gains from the aftermarket leafs.
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:21 PM   #7
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so remotes are worth it for mid travel?
IN a fast off roading, hot environment, I think so. For crawling, and lower speeds, you wouldnt see much benafit.
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IN a fast off roading, hot environment, I think so. For crawling, and lower speeds, you wouldnt see much benafit.
How about long runs on a offroad terrain where the shock is performing a lot . I'm thinking a resi would come into play there aswell .
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How about long runs on a offroad terrain where the shock is performing a lot .
That would be under the "Fast off roading) I meentioned.
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How about long runs on a offroad terrain where the shock is performing a lot . I'm thinking a resi would come into play there aswell .
mine get really hot
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:34 PM   #12
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mine get really hot
Have you taken the temps? 130* can "feel" pretty hot, but its not. You have to get them over 180* or more before you can really feel a performance drop.
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Does anybody know what are the stock rear travel numbers ?
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Also in the mix with me replacing my rear leafs is a set of stock length Total Chaos lca's . They are pretty pricey but I'm sticking with my MT set up so I'm heavily considering them . Can either do lca's or j66 leafs at the moment .



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Also in the mix with me replacing my rear leafs is a set of stock length Total Chaos lca's . They are pretty pricey but I'm sticking with my MT set up so I'm heavily considering them . Can either do lca's or j66 leafs at the moment .



Might seem like a dumb question to you guys but my knowledge on suspension is limited at best. Whats the up side of having these instead of the stock LCA's?
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Have you taken the temps? 130* can "feel" pretty hot, but its not. You have to get them over 180* or more before you can really feel a performance drop.
I didnt take temps, but they were hot enough to steam dry and were too hot to touch. This was after using a non-maintained trail for a good 3 hours. Washboard surfaces make me want LT

Guess that's not really scientific though...I'll have to bring a laser thermometer next time
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I didnt take temps, but they were hot enough to steam dry and were too hot to touch. This was after using a non-maintained trail for a good 3 hours. Washboard surfaces make me want LT

Guess that's not really scientific though...I'll have to bring a laser thermometer next time
Yeah, an IR thermo can be much more accurate. Figure water can evap pretty dam fast at 130*. Figure thats halfway to its boiling point.
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I was wondering how you would test the temp .
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Might seem like a dumb question to you guys but my knowledge on suspension is limited at best. Whats the up side of having these instead of the stock LCA's?
uniballs and polybushings will give "cleaner" travel. The arms are also much stronger.
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uniballs and polybushings will give "cleaner" travel. The arms are also much stronger.
Yeah those arms also allow you to keep your stock fenders and you can add a secondary shock to it as well . The bottom of the arm come with a skid .
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