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Old 01-05-2013, 07:45 AM   #1
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Spindle lift & Wandering on the Road Questions?!

Morning Gents, I've been off Tacomaworld for a while because I just returned from a deployment and PCS'd to S. Texas. Regardless, here is my question. In February I installed Bilstein 5100's with the front set at .75, Maxtrac Spindles, and All-Pro Expedition rear leaf springs. Wheels are Nitto Trail Grappler 285/75/17. I'm getting a lot of steering wheel play at speeds greater than about 60-65 mph. It's not horrible, but it makes driving a 100% concentration job because I'm always worried the truck will wander right off the road. Is this just the result of the higher CG and soft wall tires resulting from the lift install? It almost seems like I could use some sort of steering dampner like crotch rockets have to dampen out movements a bit. Trying to keep this kind of brief, but I could post a video and some pictures if this helps. There's a good lift shop here in town that I might swing by and just ask some questions to, as I've wanted to go by there anyways, and this is a good excuse! Anyone else have a gripe like this? It's easily liveable, and I'm sure its just from what I said above, I guess I'm more interested in what I can do to fix it, minimize it, and see if everyone else has a similar gripe.
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Old 01-05-2013, 07:54 AM   #3
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you need your alignment corrected
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Old 01-05-2013, 08:09 AM   #4
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Eat a Bullet, I'm in Corpus Christi. I put all the lift on myself, was pretty easy, was just going to have the local 4x4 shop take a gander at all the torques on the bolts and all.

Brutal, Goodyear did the alignment, maybe I'll need to go have them check it again? Wheels were roadforce balanced as well, etc, etc.
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what were the alignment #'s
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Sorry, was at the gym, here's the spec sheet from Goodyear.
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Sorry, was at the gym, here's the spec sheet from Goodyear.
only thing that guy did was screw up your caster and camber
and he fixed your toe a lil bit
thats your problem right there

you want 0 toe, 0 camber and around 3 caster
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Thank you I will have them correct it. I had the lift put on and the truck went into storage, aka the wife didn't drive it much, until I got back, so the wandering really didn't show itself till I got to drive it for a bit. I'll see what they can do, appreciate it!
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0 toe will cause problems. All of your numbers should be midrange of the tolerances listed, for optimal results.
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Toe looks good. You want a little bit of + toe, like .05*. So that looks good. Your Camber needs to be closer to, or below .4*. Caster needs to be over 2.1*.
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Thanks for all the hints. Though I didn't get it aligned at the local Goodyear, I'm still going to see if they'll work with me. I guess now the question is, are any of the #'s I posted off enough to make my truck overtly wander, or am I just being overly ambitious on how my lifted Taco should handle?
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Thanks for all the hints. Though I didn't get it aligned at the local Goodyear, I'm still going to see if they'll work with me. I guess now the question is, are any of the #'s I posted off enough to make my truck overtly wander, or am I just being overly ambitious on how my lifted Taco should handle?
yes. the low Caster will cause wandering. Get it over 2*, preferably 2.5* or more, and you should be all good.
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Just wondering how your alignment went...Did those adjustments help?
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I've procrastinated! It's been on my list to do and since I started a 38 mile commute to work, my wife's car is now my daily driver and the Tacoma has become a grocery getter! Needless to say, if I can find the time over the next week or so, I'll get it done, and let everyone know how it turned out. Cheers.
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So, approximately 9 months after posting this, I finally made it back to Goodyear armed with the information gathered on here. We're doing a 1600 mile roundtrip drive next weekend and didn't wan't to worry about the wandering at higher speeds. Talked to the gentlemen, told them exactly what I wanted, they did it, and she runs like a champ. Just like before I even put the lift on. Tracks straight, no steering wheel shake, went all the way up to like 75 which is probably 79mph actual and all was good.
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