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Old 04-13-2013, 06:26 PM   #1
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Help diagnose death wobble!!

This is my buddys land cruiser, he's been chasing this steering issue for a while. Heres what we've eliminated: tie rods, rod ends, steering box, alignment. All of it gone through and checked. You can see in the video that it seems to be harmonic. As he accelerates quickly about 3 minutes in it misses the death wobble, but as he decelerates back through those speeds it picks it up again. Really strange and we just can't seem to track this thing.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-gA...HT1pxLWM/edit?
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:30 PM   #2
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u joints? Does he have a lift and small tires? Is the steering stabliser in good shape?
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:32 PM   #3
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Those are 44" tires , big lift
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:35 PM   #4
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Sorry I should have told ya the link didn't work for me but I'm pretty sure you can't balance 44" but don't qoute me on it maybe that is the issue, thats all i can think of at the moment.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:41 PM   #5
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I have the same thing going on with my truck. I'm going with a hydro assist set up to see if that will fix it...if I ever get time to install the damn thing.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:43 PM   #6
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I have the same thing going on with my truck. I'm going with a hydro assist set up to see if that will fix it...if I ever get time to install the damn thing.
Hydro is the way to go with that size of tire i totaly agree.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:45 PM   #7
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You can, and at any rate this would have to be SEVERELY off balance to try and kill you like this haha. He said the video should be open to viewing if you have the link
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Am I seeing a single steering stabilizer with 44's?
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You can, and at any rate this would have to be SEVERELY off balance to try and kill you like this haha. He said the video should be open to viewing if you have the link
Well you learn something new everyday haha but maybe there is water in the tire my buddies heep has water in it he said it help on the rocks but god the damn thing nearly killed us.
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It looks to have one on the tie rod and one on the drag link.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:53 PM   #12
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tire balance? are the tires missing lugs/thread?
warped/bent wheel?
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:57 PM   #14
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HOLY SHIT that was pretty bad haha. I know death wobble happens more with home built set ups, but that's built from the factory with the axle...too much play in the aftermarket components?

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Am I seeing a single steering stabilizer with 44's?
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It looks to have one on the tie rod and one on the drag link.
oh ya, nvm. just saw the steering arm at the very edge of the vid

maybe beefier stabilizer?

try throwing some stabalizing beads in the tire to eliminate those as the problem?



also can we see more pics of the rig?





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honestly looks like it is all comming from the huge amount of play at the top of the steering arm, and it looks like the steering stabilizer is flopping around on the arm as well...or that might just be how much its flexing from the vibes...
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Two sets of tires have done the same thing. It isnt the tires or water in them.
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Time for serious suspension work.
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It's time for some beefy steering component and hydro assist or just full hydro.
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