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Old 12-05-2013, 09:04 AM   #41
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we used an air chisel and a press and they came out pretty easy for me, as in 10 minutes..
i guess i just dont see the need to get new arms just cause of bushings, but to each their own.
Oh I'm not sayin buy new arms. Just a lot of people don't have an air chisel and press readily available.

When I did mine we burned out the bushings then had to cut the metal sleeve then hit it out with punch and hammer. Took time but it worked. Putting the new bushings in with a ball joint press they went in easily
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Dont know if you figured out your problem. I tacked all 4 of my adjusters in place. Nothing was holding them since the tabs were flat and they had the wrong size cams. Figured if I needed another alignment I would cut the tacks with a dremmel or something. Or just buy new set of cam's... found them for like $30. They never moved after the tack's.


For the bushings. Use a muffler/panel cutter on the air chisel. Just cut the bushing steel and punch it inward with the hole on the bottom. Do not grease them when you re-install

thats the exact bit we used on the air chisel, you can fold the sleeve in on its self and it will come out

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Oh I'm not sayin buy new arms. Just a lot of people don't have an air chisel and press readily available.

When I did mine we burned out the bushings then had to cut the metal sleeve then hit it out with punch and hammer. Took time but it worked. Putting the new bushings in with a ball joint press they went in easily
op said he is doing it at a dealership, so thats me assuming they have that stuff lol

burning them out sounds like a good idea to add to the list!!
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thats the exact bit we used on the air chisel, you can fold the sleeve in on its self and it will come out


op said he is doing it at a dealership, so thats me assuming they have that stuff lol

burning them out sounds like a good idea to add to the list!!
Thanks for all the advice. Planning on bending tab back and pressing bushings out and putting new ones in. That seems like the cheapest fix.
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Thanks for all the advice. Planning on bending tab back and pressing bushings out and putting new ones in. That seems like the cheapest fix.
yeah buddy! you are welcome.
let us know how it goes!
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Old 12-05-2013, 11:30 AM   #45
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Thanks for all the advice. Planning on bending tab back and pressing bushings out and putting new ones in. That seems like the cheapest fix.
Good luck with the press.... 12ton press I have wouldn't touch them
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Good luck with the press.... 12ton press I have wouldn't touch them
i remember we knocked them out with a air hammer and put them back in with a press.

now that i look back i think we tried a press too, to get them out, but it wouldnt line up properly or some shit.

hopefully it works worry free for you, and you have $300 in your pocket still.
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Going to dealer next week to get this done. I went to tighten my lca bolts and whoever did it last had them at 85ft lbs. I put them at 115lbs and they all seemed to move fine. Maybe it wont be to bad after all
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4. Have welder bend only tab that is bent back and align for around 100 dollars. ( and pray the heat from the weld will not burn the bushing.
I had 2 tabs bend over on my truck the last time I had an alignment done. I took the truck to a welder and he bent back the 2 tabs and welded all 4 tabs on the rear sides of the lower control arms. he charged $80. it was quick, easy, and I don't have to worry about it anymore. (and the bushings are ok.)
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Going to dealer next week to get this done. I went to tighten my lca bolts and whoever did it last had them at 85ft lbs. I put them at 115lbs and they all seemed to move fine. Maybe it wont be to bad after all
If the bolts are loose, the arm will slip and bend the tabs. If the hit is hard enough to slip the clamping force on the bushing sleeve, it will bend the tabs.

The tabs are there to allow alignment, basically a surface for the cam to push against. Once set, the alignment is held by the bolts being tight.

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Dont know if you figured out your problem. I tacked all 4 of my adjusters in place. Nothing was holding them since the tabs were flat and they had the wrong size cams. Figured if I needed another alignment I would cut the tacks with a dremmel or something. Or just buy new set of cam's... found them for like $30. They never moved after the tack's.

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I had 2 tabs bend over on my truck the last time I had an alignment done. I took the truck to a welder and he bent back the 2 tabs and welded all 4 tabs on the rear sides of the lower control arms. he charged $80. it was quick, easy, and I don't have to worry about it anymore. (and the bushings are ok.)
Thread bump, do you have any pics of the welds? did you reinforce with another piece of steel, or just use the existing tab? Mine are flat, and I think if I bend them back, they will snap off. I was thinking of just cutting them off and then using like a 3/16" x 3/16 x 1" piece on each side and laying it in there with a bead. If you can do this, what is the point of taking everything apart for the TC tabs, seems like a lot of work for something that could be accomplished much easier.
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i tried that too, went through about the same amount as you too then gave up till the next day when my dad brought home a plasma cutter
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Thread bump, do you have any pics of the welds? did you reinforce with another piece of steel, or just use the existing tab? Mine are flat, and I think if I bend them back, they will snap off. I was thinking of just cutting them off and then using like a 3/16" x 3/16 x 1" piece on each side and laying it in there with a bead. If you can do this, what is the point of taking everything apart for the TC tabs, seems like a lot of work for something that could be accomplished much easier.
I don't have any pictures. the guy I had do the work gently bent the tabs back in place and just laid a bead behind the tabs. it was super easy. for me, $80 was worth the time and effort.
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I don't have any pictures. the guy I had do the work gently bent the tabs back in place and just laid a bead behind the tabs. it was super easy. for me, $80 was worth the time and effort.
Thanks, as I mentioned, this seems to be a way easier (and cheaper) route than the TC tabs, especially if you have a welder.
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