What's so bad about lift blocks?

So I wanna get a 3 inch lift from rough country and every one says its no good but what is so bad about them if I do no off roading with my truck I just like the look of it can any one give me a straight up awnser about why not to go with lift blocks?

 

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blocks increase axle wrap, (which means your axle hopps. your axle tries to twist under exceleration, and adding blocks increase the leverage making it very easy to get axle wrap.)

do not increase travel at all

rides like stock, or a little worse.



i think they will be fine for you.

 

The higher the block the more torque you put on the leafs under acceleration (known as axle wrap). That said, we all know oem leafs are shit (they are, don't argue). This effect will be worse on pavement as your wheels have a higher coefficient of friction and will not slip.

Having snapped a couple leafs myself (without the addition of blocks) I can tell you the last thing I will ever install is blocks.

 

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If you have to ask then they will be fine for you. It's all show and no go.

 

Just do an AAL. Moar of everything good and none of that bad shit with blocks.

 

AAL will stiffen it up quite a bit, keep that in mind. when i had a aal on my truck if i hit a speed bump faster than 2mph i felt like i broke my back.

once i threw my tire carrier that weighs 150 and 2 full size spares back there it was like butter though

 

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I know there are two types of blocks: Those that preload the spring which shorten the effective stroke of the strut and those that go on top of the entire strut which, in theory, shouldn't have issues. I suppose either would need bump stops adjusted so that the strut isn't forced to a full collapse position. The second type should, in my mind, work well for a truck that is strickly pavement runner or very light off road - one without maximum suspension articulation. My take is that full suspension lifts are preferred by most on here because it seems like a lot of guys do some aggressive off roading. If that's the case (heavy off roading) then you'd want a suspension lift with longer stroke struts, etc...

 

That's for front blocks, for the rear springs. I'd only go with AAL or replacement springs due to axle wrap issues.

 

^Truth. preloading the coil is the LEAST preferred, and gives a horrible ride. Been there, done that, never again. Top plate spacer is better, but not as good as as an adjustable strut like the billies.

 

Well that helps a ton and I think I'm going to go aal from fatbobs still need to check out OEM though. But thanks a ton!

 

Wrong. Top plate spacers cause the suspension to have to much downward travel and will cause over extension of ball joints, CV, tie rods, etc. They also can cause the shock itself to be the bump stop so it lowers the shock past the point where the factory bump stop engages.


If you must do a spacer lift, a preload spacer or a small top plate spacer combined with a preload spacer is the best way to do it. That is EXACTLY how a 5100 works.

 

So will a aal level my truck out with the 2 inch from spacer?

 

Do you even words?

 

How much lift from the AAL?

2nd gen Taco's have about 1-1.5 inches if rake. So that means if you lift the rear 2 inches, the front has to go up at least 3 inches to get it level.

 

HUH? OP isn't going to baja his truck through the dunes, at 3" of lift he'll won't damage anything as he won't leave the pavement. Yes, he should install extended bumps.

No need for the shitty attitude holmes, I don't think either of the options is the best way to go. In my book do it right once or don't bother, but half the people who lift on TW want to do it for a couple hundred bucks, so picking "the best of the worst" is really dependent on what the OP is going to do with the truck. Since the OP will never go off road (and risk tearing up his front end) the top plate will be fine for him without making his truck feel like its riding on bricks.

 

Doesn't have to take it through the dunes for stuff to bind and break. It can fully extend over a speed bump.

No shitty attitude here and i agree it all depends on what the OP will be doing with his truck but I have seen 1st hand how top plate spacer only lifts can cause stuff to break catastrophically or wear out really fast.

And preload spacers don't change the ride as much as everyone thinks they do especially if the current shocks and coils are in good shape.

 

I ran the combination (top and coil spacer) in my gen 1, and they were straight up garbage, and I went with new struts when I did it. I replaced them with an adjustable coil-over and the difference was night and day. I didn't experience any wear or tear to the front end (ball joints, tie rod ends, etc) until I cranked the C/O way up so I could clear 33's... way over 3".

It would appear to me we can both agree the OP should spring for 5100's.

 

depends what size aal you want to go with!
if you have a 2 inch lift in the front, you only need like a 1 inch out back.

cool story bro
at least im helping the guy

exactly this!!





yes thats what happens if you use a spacer on top of your strut, and dont extend your bump stops. your shock will be your new bump stop.

 

Exactly, You ran a combo. Not a top plate spacer only lift. Did you have a TRD model 1st gen?