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Old 12-24-2013, 12:21 PM   #1
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Need advice on rear suspension, please!

Hello there. I bought the Deaver 10-leafs and Bilstein 5160 for the rear. I love the ride. But I feel like needs a little more lift. I like the tail of the truck a little more raised than the front. And need some more clearance between the bumpstop and the frame. When driving at 40 mi/hr and pass over a bump, ford, or other noticeable road imperfections the bump-stop hits the frame. I know that is what supposed to do, but I think it is not normal at lower speeds (Never happened with my old 98 tacoma, or my camry). How can I fix that? What do I need to buy/replace? The distance between the bumpstop and the frame is 3 and a half inches.
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Old 12-28-2013, 09:18 AM   #2
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Bump...
Anyone?
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Old 12-28-2013, 10:21 AM   #3
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Snap a pictures of the rear with all tires on the ground. As it looks now I do not see anyway the rear bumpstops would hit frame going over bumps unless the truck is seriously loaded down.
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which pack?

is that the J66 pack?
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THANKS for replying!
With no load it hits... I will take this afternoon a video with a gopro installed on the frame.
I really dont know what model of the 10 leaf pack I have, I just bought it from wheelersoffrad dot com with this description in the invoice:
Leaf Spring Set – Deaver Tacoma 4X4 and PreRunner 10 Rear Leaf × 1 $624.95

I already wrote them a week ago and still have not answer from them, maybe because the holidays.
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Old 12-28-2013, 11:15 AM   #6
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is that the J66 pack?

This one ?

http://youtu.be/T553scxGcMQ
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Wow....that is a soft leaf pack.
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Old 12-28-2013, 12:49 PM   #8
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THANKS for replying!
With no load it hits... I will take this afternoon a video with a gopro installed on the frame.
I really dont know what model of the 10 leaf pack I have, I just bought it from wheelersoffrad dot com with this description in the invoice:
Leaf Spring Set – Deaver Tacoma 4X4 and PreRunner 10 Rear Leaf × 1 $624.95

I already wrote them a week ago and still have not answer from them, maybe because the holidays.

These ones ?

http://wheelersoffroad.com/product/l...af-spring-set/

Product code : DR J66

So , I would presume that they are the J66 pack
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That's Correct! Those are then... so there is the problem!
I didn't bought other brand because I read a lot of "buy Daever!, can't go wrong!". Well, I will write to Wheelers guys, to see if there is a reasonable solution for this, Maybe an Add a leaf can help.
THANK YOU GUYS! You really relieved me a headache.
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That's Correct! Those are then... so there is the problem!
I didn't bought other brand because I read a lot of "buy Daever!, can't go wrong!". Well, I will write to Wheelers guys, to see if there is a reasonable solution for this, Maybe an Add a leaf can help.
THANK YOU GUYS! You really relieved me a headache.
What is the truck used for? Is it a daily driver that hauls stuff? I think the Deaver springs are perfect for a long travel softly sprung truck but soft for a daily
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What is the truck used for?
Daily driver, and camping/wheeling at weekends. Sometimes I haul a 14' boat or a custom made trailer for carrying camping stuff (coolers, tents, chairs, tables, fishing gear, gas, stove, etc).

Today I went to fishing, and the place we went has like 30 miles of dirt roads. I really love the ride, it handles beautifully but the knocking on the bumpstops very often worries me. I didn't use the trailer, just the truck, a cooler and fishing gear.

I hope an Add-a-leaf fixes this, because I would like to rise an extra inch in the rear (I personally like a little more lifted in the rear, so when I add weight does not look like it's going off like a plane). I'm still waiting for a comment from the dealer.
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adding a leaf

There is a thread somewhere that talks about deaver helping someone out and adding a leaf and re arching the pack. I also have these and they do tend to be very soft and sometimes bottom out. I think its a bad design anyways since they sit at almost negative arch. I will be doing a SUA swap soon and from the looks of everyone elses they love it.
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Deavers suck and bilstein's valving does too (soft and soft). Get different springs AND shocks.
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Deavers suck and bilstein's valving does too (soft and soft). Get different springs AND shocks.
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Hello there. I bought the Deaver 10-leafs and Bilstein 5160 for the rear. I love the ride. But I feel like needs a little more lift. I like the tail of the truck a little more raised than the front. And need some more clearance between the bumpstop and the frame. When driving at 40 mi/hr and pass over a bump, ford, or other noticeable road imperfections the bump-stop hits the frame. I know that is what supposed to do, but I think it is not normal at lower speeds (Never happened with my old 98 tacoma, or my camry). How can I fix that? What do I need to buy/replace? The distance between the bumpstop and the frame is 3 and a half inches.
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I think you need to understand what your goals are and what products meet those goals. One thing rear spring MFG's need to do is better explain the intended purpose, spring rate and range of travel the springs are designed for. The two guys in the video are _ _ _ _ ing idots. I would say a completely different spring pack is what you need. The Deavers are more of race truck type application. If you can see on race trucks for the forces the suspension sees they are lightly sprung with the control controlled by high quality multiple shocks.
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Actually I like to drive dirty roads over 65mph... I did it last weekend, and the drive was amazing, but in some bumps, the rear suspension hits hard the frame. I need something less soft, or better yet, something to stiff the ride a little. Maybe an Add a Leaf can help, or those Timbren (or similar) air bags. But not sure if they gonna handle it some small jumps that I like to do sometimes. Anyway it is my daily drive/offroad/camping truck.
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I think you need to understand what your goals are and what products meet those goals. One thing rear spring MFG's need to do is better explain the intended purpose, spring rate and range of travel the springs are designed for. The two guys in the video are _ _ _ _ ing idots. I would say a completely different spring pack is what you need. The Deavers are more of race truck type application. If you can see on race trucks for the forces the suspension sees they are lightly sprung with the control controlled by high quality multiple shocks.

Well , I'm one of the fucking idiots in the video, the other fucking idiot is the one that paid $700.00 & change for a leafpack that was/is mediocre at best, not even a stock 2 leaf non TSB will bottom out while jumping on it, his money, his spring, he can jump on it all he wants, & the J-66 IS a piece of shit, Everyone knows it, DEAVER knows it, & your reference to being "lightly sprung" on race trucks, you dont know what the hell your talking about
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Well , I'm one of the fucking idiots in the video, the other fucking idiot is the one that paid $700.00 & change for a leafpack that was/is mediocre at best, not even a stock 2 leaf non TSB will bottom out while jumping on it, his money, his spring, he can jump on it all he wants, & the J-66 IS a piece of shit, Everyone knows it, DEAVER knows it, & your reference to being "lightly sprung" on race trucks, you dont know what the hell your talking about
I'll second this. He is one of the fucking idiots in the video!
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I'll second this. He is one of the fucking idiots in the video!

Thanks for the confirmation douchebag....
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