AAL Install. (second gen)

ph16drive · 10-02-2009, 03:35 AM

So with an AAL, is there a little more hauling capacity when paired with the stock or TSB suspension? If so, anyone know what that might be?

chris4x4 · 10-02-2009, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by yumatrd

Thanks Chris!
I just installed my add-a-leaf today. This DIY made the install a breeze.
Took my time,

and finished the job in five hours.
Thanks again!!

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Originally Posted by DTacoms

Very nice write up Chris! I printed this and followed it step by step. The only difference is that my U-bolt (TSB) nuts are 19 mm.

When I was removing the nuts, there was no resistance at all. I doubt it was torqued at 100 Nm.

I had about 1/2" thread left before the AAL and yet it's still about 1/2" after the AAL torqued at 100Nm

It really surprised me since it was just serviced by the dealership a week ago!

By the way, how often should I check the torque? I was wheeling 2 weeks ago though. Do they really get loose after wheeling?

Also, what is the torque of the lug nuts? I just tightened them hard. Checked at 80 Nm.

Thanks.

Lug nuts should be about 80 to 90 ft-lbs. Not sure what that is in Nm's. U bolts should be 75 ft-lbs.

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Originally Posted by ph16drive

So with an AAL, is there a little more hauling capacity when paired with the stock or TSB suspension? If so, anyone know what that might be?

No increase in capacity.

LonghornTaco · 10-02-2009, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by chris4x4

Lug nuts should be about 80 to 90 ft-lbs. Not sure what that is in Nm's. U bolts should be 75 ft-lbs.

I thought that sounded a little high too from when I attempted this last time, but the FSM says the UBolts should only be torqued to 37 ft lbs. Or 50N*m (whatever that means...)

chris4x4 · 10-02-2009, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LonghornTaco

I thought that sounded a little high too from when I attempted this last time, but the FSM says the UBolts should only be torqued to 37 ft lbs. Or 50N*m (whatever that means...)

The FSM is incorrect. Its a typo. 73 ft-lbs on OEM bolts.

LonghornTaco · 10-02-2009, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by chris4x4

The FSM is incorrect. Its a typo. 73 ft-lbs on OEM bolts.

That's a long way to be off! I'll remember that when I finally install mine...

ph16drive · 10-02-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by chris4x4

The FSM is incorrect. Its a typo. 73 ft-lbs on OEM bolts.

That's amazing, Chris even corrects the FSM. <insert not worthy smilie here>

chris4x4 · 10-02-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ph16drive

that's amazing, chris even corrects the fsm. <insert not worthy smilie here>

lmao!!!

LonghornTaco · 10-02-2009, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ph16drive

That's amazing, Chris even corrects the FSM. <insert not worthy smilie here>

Yep - I would believe Chris over the FSM any day...

DTacoms · 10-03-2009, 07:02 PM

Hi Chris,

I noticed that you use a spacer in the brake line bracket. Is this necessary?

chris4x4 · 10-03-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DTacoms

Hi Chris,

I noticed that you use a spacer in the brake line bracket. Is this necessary?

No. Its not nessesary at all. It was already on Packerfans truck, so I left it. Its not hurting anything being in there.

DTacoms · 10-03-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chris4x4

No. Its not nessesary at all. It was already on Packerfans truck, so I left it. Its not hurting anything being in there.

Thank Chris. I saw this one being used in a Tuff Country AAL install. It looks like it is used to maintain the play of the brake lines, so I installed one anyway.

By the way, when do we need to use longer brake lines? When using longer shocks? Will it be necessary in 5100 rear?

chris4x4 · 10-03-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DTacoms

Thank Chris. I saw this one being used in a Tuff Country AAL install. It looks like it is used to maintain the play of the brake lines, so I installed one anyway.

By the way, when do we need to use longer brake lines? When using longer shocks? Will it be necessary in 5100 rear?

You really only need longer brake lines if your lifting more than 3"

Keason1* · 10-06-2009, 11:09 AM

im doing this right now but with the 3 AAL pack, just a heads up, the centering pin on mine is rusted solid so i had to go buy a angle grinder to cut it off.

Keason1* · 10-06-2009, 05:51 PM

I just installed my wheelers 3 AAL pack, I took out my overload leaf and the toytec AAL I had on there. Im not sure what It measured at before but Im at 49 1/2" from ground to bottom of fender now. It rides the same on road so far, Im gonna try and do some flexing to see if the are any better than my other setup

chris4x4 · 10-06-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Keason1*

I just installed my wheelers 3 AAL pack, I took out my overload leaf and the toytec AAL I had on there. Im not sure what It measured at before but Im at 49 1/2" from ground to bottom of fender now. It rides the same on road so far, Im gonna try and do some flexing to see if the are any better than my other setup

49 1/2" !!

Thats an 8" lift!

Keason1* · 10-07-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by chris4x4

49 1/2" !!

Thats an 8" lift!

lol I meant 39 1/2"

aww1970 · 10-07-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by chris4x4

49 1/2" !!

Thats an 8" lift!

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Originally Posted by Keason1*

lol I meant 39 1/2"

So then you lowered the truck 2" ?

chris4x4 · 10-07-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Keason1*

lol I meant 39 1/2"

Ah...LOL...Sounds more like it....Thats what mines sitting at.

Dane-Taco · 10-23-2009, 08:35 PM

Great info Chris, I have a couple of questions. I assume the AALs were 2". Did it give you a 2" lift? I am hear mixed stories. "Redfox" brought it up, can you use the stock U bolts? i also noticed my truck has 2 leafs (not including the overload) yours has 3? Prerunners have different suspension?
Thank you

...What is a "Sticky"?

Dane

chris4x4 · 10-23-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dane-Taco

Great info Chris, I have a couple of questions. I assume the AALs were 2". Did it give you a 2" lift? I am hear mixed stories. "Redfox" brought it up, can you use the stock U bolts? i also noticed my truck has 2 leafs (not including the overload) yours has 3? Prerunners have different suspension?
Thank you

...What is a "Sticky"?

Dane

The truck that was used in the write up is PackerfanXDs' truck. He has the TSB leaf springs, and IIRC, his AAL's were 1.5" lift. I belive they gave him about 1.75" lift. New "U" bolts are required.
A "Sticky", is when the thread is "Stuck" so it stays at the top of the threads in the section in which it is posted.

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Keason1* time travel exists Joined: Mar 2008, #5246 Location: Wichita Falls, TX Age: 23 Gender: Male Posts: 1,761 07 PreRunner-Driver Mod 2007 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 2.0 Fox Coilovers, 285-65X18" Dune Grapplers, moto metal rims. K/N CAI. 4X Hella 500's, 6K HID's, Pioneer HU, Image dynamics, rear 5100's, painted engine cover. aux reverse lights, Blacked out tails, LED cupholder mod, flowmaster 50, custom bed bar.	im doing this right now but with the 3 AAL pack, just a heads up, the centering pin on mine is rusted solid so i had to go buy a angle grinder to cut it off. __________________ http://zombiedefense.org/main/index.html

10-06-2009, 05:51 PM	#54
Keason1* time travel exists Joined: Mar 2008, #5246 Location: Wichita Falls, TX Age: 23 Gender: Male Posts: 1,761 07 PreRunner-Driver Mod 2007 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 2.0 Fox Coilovers, 285-65X18" Dune Grapplers, moto metal rims. K/N CAI. 4X Hella 500's, 6K HID's, Pioneer HU, Image dynamics, rear 5100's, painted engine cover. aux reverse lights, Blacked out tails, LED cupholder mod, flowmaster 50, custom bed bar.	I just installed my wheelers 3 AAL pack, I took out my overload leaf and the toytec AAL I had on there. Im not sure what It measured at before but Im at 49 1/2" from ground to bottom of fender now. It rides the same on road so far, Im gonna try and do some flexing to see if the are any better than my other setup __________________ http://zombiedefense.org/main/index.html

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10-23-2009, 08:35 PM	#59
Dane-Taco Member Joined: Oct 2009, #24403 Location: North Bay, California Gender: Male Posts: 48 '10 Doublecab TRD Off-Road 2010 Double Cab Manual 4.0L V6 Bilstein 5100s set at 2.5, 2" Tuff Country AALs, SX8000 Gas Shocks, Redline Hood Struts, Locker Anytime Mod, Map Light Mod, Diff Breather Mod, Fog Lights Anytime Mod	Great info Chris, I have a couple of questions. I assume the AALs were 2". Did it give you a 2" lift? I am hear mixed stories. "Redfox" brought it up, can you use the stock U bolts? i also noticed my truck has 2 leafs (not including the overload) yours has 3? Prerunners have different suspension? Thank you ...What is a "Sticky"? Dane