AAL Install. (second gen)

Dane-Taco · 10-23-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chris4x4

The truck that was used in the write up is PackerfanXDs' truck. He has the TSB leaf springs, and IIRC, his AAL's were 1.5" lift. I belive they gave him about 1.75" lift. New "U" bolts are required.
A "Sticky", is when the thread is "Stuck" so it stays at the top of the threads in the section in which it is posted.

Ha, Thanks for the reply. Still new at this and just noticed the 2 other pages of posts that answered most of my questions. Parts are on order and will hopefully be completing this install next week!! (5100's front, SX8000 rear, 2"AALs) Your write up will definitely help. Thanks again Bro

chris4x4 · 10-23-2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dane-Taco

Ha, Thanks for the reply. Still new at this and just noticed the 2 other pages of posts that answered most of my questions. Parts are on order and will hopefully be completing this install next week!! (5100's front, SX8000 rear, 2"AALs) Your write up will definitely help. Thanks again Bro

PackerfanXD · 10-23-2009, 09:45 PM

Haha, I thought that truck looked familiar! How did I miss this?? Great write up Chris! Sorry I forgot my camera...

chris4x4 · 10-24-2009, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by PackerfanXD

Haha, I thought that truck looked familiar! How did I miss this?? Great write up Chris! Sorry I forgot my camera...

No worries, We got it.

08Taco5-Lug2.7L · 10-24-2009, 04:19 PM

Would any AAL for a PreRunner or 4x4 Tacoma also work for the 5 Lug version? I have the ReadyLift 5-Lug Lift Kit but one of my AAL's got worn down. Any advice would be awesome.

chris4x4 · 10-24-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 08Taco5-Lug2.7L

Would any AAL for a PreRunner or 4x4 Tacoma also work for the 5 Lug version? I have the ReadyLift 5-Lug Lift Kit but one of my AAL's got worn down. Any advice would be awesome.

I dont think so.

DScottT · 11-13-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by chris4x4

The FSM is incorrect. Its a typo. 73 ft-lbs on OEM bolts.

Chris,

Are you saying the FSM is wrong. It says the rear u-bolt torque is 50 N-m. 50 N-m converts to 37 ft-lbs. I'm confused, please clarify as I'm adding a leaf next weekend.

This is where I always check torque values and other unit conversions.
http://www.onlineconversion.com/torque.htm I've checked their numbers and they have always been right.

chris4x4 · 11-13-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DScottT

Chris,

Are you saying the FSM is wrong. It says the rear u-bolt torque is 50 N-m. 50 N-m converts to 37 ft-lbs. I'm confused, please clarify as I'm adding a leaf next weekend.

This is where I always check torque values and other unit conversions.
http://www.onlineconversion.com/torque.htm I've checked their numbers and they have always been right.

Yes. 73 ft-lbs is the correct figure.

DScottT · 11-13-2009, 11:08 AM

Chris,

I'm reluctant to disagree with you because you have been right on so many occasions, but where did you come up with that?
I just measured the dia. of the u-bolt (14mm) on my truck and checked a metric torque chart. Assuming Toyota uses standard strength steel in these u-bolts, 37 lb-ft(50N-m) is correct. I'm a Mechanical Engineer by education, with that said I know I'm not a expert on Toyota's, but I do know over torquing a bolt is bad. I need to know

chris4x4 · 11-13-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DScottT

Chris,

I'm reluctant to disagree with you because you have been right on so many occasions, but where did you come up with that?
I just measured the dia. of the u-bolt (14mm) on my truck and checked a metric torque chart. Assuming Toyota uses standard strength steel in these u-bolts, 37 lb-ft(50N-m) is correct. I'm a Mechanical Engineer by education, with that said I know I'm not a expert on Toyota's, but I do know over torquing a bolt is bad. I need to know

I checked with about 5 or 6 Toyota mechanics. Also, I tried the 37# on my truck, and found the springs will shift horribly. I also asked a friend of mine who has been working on Toyotas for God only knows, and he said the value was wrong. Over torquing a bolt IS bad, and I understand your relectance. Every U bolt I have torqued has been to about 75#, with no issues. No crooked springs, etc. I HAVE E-mailed Toyota regarding this issue 2 seperate occasions, and have not heard back. I have given up at this point.

DScottT · 11-13-2009, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chris4x4

I checked with about 5 or 6 Toyota mechanics. Also, I tried the 37# on my truck, and found the springs will shift horribly. I also asked a friend of mine who has been working on Toyotas for God only knows, and he said the value was wrong. Over torquing a bolt IS bad, and I understand your relectance. Every U bolt I have torqued has been to about 75#, with no issues. No crooked springs, etc. I HAVE E-mailed Toyota regarding this issue 2 seperate occasions, and have not heard back. I have given up at this point.

That's what I needed to hear. I know manuals are not always right. I suspect they are actually using a higher strength bolt, which needs a higher torque, but the manual writers are using the torque chart I used. It happens in my businesss too often. You da man. Thanks!!

chris4x4 · 11-13-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DScottT

That's what I needed to hear. I know manuals are not always right. I suspect they are actually using a higher strength bolt, which needs a higher torque, but the manual writers are using the torque chart I used. It happens in my businesss too often. You da man. Thanks!!

Glad to help

671taco · 11-16-2009, 05:51 AM

is longer u bolts needed, or the stock ones will still work?
lookin at the toytec 2" aals

PackerfanXD · 11-16-2009, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 671taco

is longer u bolts needed, or the stock ones will still work?
lookin at the toytec 2" aals

New ones are needed.

chris4x4 · 11-16-2009, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 671taco

is longer u bolts needed, or the stock ones will still work?
lookin at the toytec 2" aals

Yep. You need longer U bolts.

671taco · 11-17-2009, 05:29 PM

damn i just contacted toytec and they said they dont ship to guam

any where else i can find a good 2" aal with u bolts??

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11-16-2009, 05:51 AM	#73
671taco Member Name: Keith Joined: Nov 2009, #25461 Location: GUAM Gender: Guy Posts: 38 2010 Reg Cab MGM SR5 Prerunner 2010 Regular Cab Manual 4-Banger!	is longer u bolts needed, or the stock ones will still work? lookin at the toytec 2" aals __________________

11-17-2009, 05:29 PM	#76
671taco Member Name: Keith Joined: Nov 2009, #25461 Location: GUAM Gender: Guy Posts: 38 2010 Reg Cab MGM SR5 Prerunner 2010 Regular Cab Manual 4-Banger!	damn i just contacted toytec and they said they dont ship to guam any where else i can find a good 2" aal with u bolts?? __________________

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DScottT Junior Member Joined: Dec 2008, #11840 Location: Nacogdoches, TX Age: 46 Gender: Male Posts: 27 05 DC PreRunner TRD SR5 2005 Double Cab Automatic V6 12 v outlet under hood, constant power to cig outlets, console light.	Chris, I'm reluctant to disagree with you because you have been right on so many occasions, but where did you come up with that? I just measured the dia. of the u-bolt (14mm) on my truck and checked a metric torque chart. Assuming Toyota uses standard strength steel in these u-bolts, 37 lb-ft(50N-m) is correct. I'm a Mechanical Engineer by education, with that said I know I'm not a expert on Toyota's, but I do know over torquing a bolt is bad. I need to know