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Discussion in 'Suspension' started by testedone, Oct 26, 2009.

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  1. Oct 26, 2009 at 3:13 PM
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    Correct. Camber and Toe affect the tire wear.
     
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  2. Oct 26, 2009 at 3:15 PM
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    ok, just wanted to be sure, because I might have to live with the caster until I get back from my trip :(
     
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  3. Oct 26, 2009 at 4:03 PM
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    I'm just sayin fuck it & getting UCAs before trying for better alignment & especially before getting new tires. Mine's mostly a caster driving "feel" thing more than tire wear. Camber & toe are good, caster could be better but I went 2.5 up front so it was expected. Good info here.............
     
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  4. Oct 26, 2009 at 4:35 PM
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    you should level out both sides and have them recheck the angles. the factory cams for camber and caster dont allow for that much adjustment. after you lift it it makes it harder to achieve 0. caster isnt a wearing angle but camber is and its going to wear the outside shoulders.
     
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  5. Oct 26, 2009 at 4:46 PM
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    Just from a theoretical perspective, it seems like it'd be best to have your alignment made with your truck at as close to its average weight as possible. For example, fill the tank half-full, have a ballast that's close to your body weight in the driver seat, make sure your normal load of tools, gear is in the truck, etc.

    Does anyone else try for this? I'm sure it's less of an issue with a truck since you don't get as much suspension compression from passengers as you might in a light car, but seems like if you wanted to go for the 'best', you'd need to think about variable weights and how they affect the alignment.

    Of course, I'm saying all this without a deep knowledge of how load affects alignment. More just as a passing thought.
     
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  6. Oct 26, 2009 at 4:49 PM
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    I had an AAL made, and shim'ed the front driver side that kept the truck level with 3/4 tank of fuel. :)
     
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  7. Oct 26, 2009 at 5:02 PM
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    caster is the only thing out right now.....
     
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  8. Oct 26, 2009 at 5:04 PM
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    Well...Your Camber isnt near 0*. Its at .8*.. That means your tires are gonna wear the outside, as they look like this from the front:
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  9. Oct 26, 2009 at 5:32 PM
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    Chris, looks like I am going to pick up some LR UCA's, are they easy to figure out how to adjust, it remains to be seen if I go back to the same place for alignment or a different place, in either case most places around where I am at are going to be very unfamiliar with adjustable UCA's...

    Also in defense of the dealer, if I had known I was plus 2 inches in lift the numbers I got would not have seemed odd...my stupidity at work there..
     
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  10. Oct 26, 2009 at 5:40 PM
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    .8 ??? My last numbers I posted were


    Left -- Right

    Left - Camber .4 Right - Camber .3

    Left - Caster 1.1 Right -     Caster 1.0

    Left - Toe .04 Right - Toe .02

    The specs from Toyota on camber are -0.3 - 1.2 so I am within specs on Camber
     
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  11. Oct 26, 2009 at 6:06 PM
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    The LR UCA's are pretty simple to figure out. You set them before you install them, and all should be good. Ok....for some reason I thought you were still at .8*. 0* is the best setting, and personally, when you get the UCA's installed, tell them 0* Toe and Camber. Not .4*, not .2*
     
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  12. Oct 26, 2009 at 6:09 PM
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    thanks...

    So if I follow you right, once I put the UCA's in they DO NOT have to be adjusted while on the vehicle?? You set them BEFORE putting them on then go have an alignment done?

    If that is the case what do I set them at?
     
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  13. Oct 26, 2009 at 6:11 PM
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    I cant remember off hand. You may have to ask someone who has them. Plenty of pics on here that show what they look like adjusted, so I would wait until your ready to put them on, or when you get them, then ask some people who are running them. Once they are on the truck, they shouldnt have to be touched again.
     
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  14. Oct 26, 2009 at 7:13 PM
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    Thanks Chris, is it correct in my assumption that the TC UCA's have no adjustments on them? There are just bolt in and then get aligned?
     
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  15. Oct 26, 2009 at 7:16 PM
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    Correct.
     
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  16. Oct 26, 2009 at 10:36 PM
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    while people are on this subject maybe someone could help me and tell me if my specs are shit or are good. (i just got my alignment done as well)

    Camber: left -0.4 right -0.4
    Caster: left -0.7 right -0.8
    Toe: left 0.02 right 0.02
     
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  17. Oct 27, 2009 at 6:13 AM
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    Your way low on Caster. you need about 2.8* And the Camber should be closer to 0*
     
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  18. Oct 27, 2009 at 6:30 AM
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    Yeah yours looks like mine :) Caster no good..
     
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  19. Oct 27, 2009 at 8:53 AM
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    So I am buying the TC UCA's today and will be installing them hopefully this Friday and get the alignment done on Saturday...
     
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  20. Oct 28, 2009 at 1:26 PM
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    Get another printout on your alignment specs please!
     
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