5100s at 2.5" with stock uca's?

jdrhodes · 11-21-2009, 06:04 PM

Installed the toytech 1.5" AAL on the sucky 3 leaf pack today and got 1.75" of lift. Now the rear sits 3.5" higher than the front. I am having bilstein 5100s installed in a couple of days and was going to have them set at 1.75" but now think I should set them to the max 2.5" to level out with the rear. I am concerned about alignment issues at 2.5" however with stock uca's. How many of you guys are running the 5100s at 2.5" and still using stock uca's? Were you able to get the front end aligned properly? Anyone started out at 2.5" and went down to 1.75"? For what reason? Thanks guys, I just want to get it right the first time since you have to compress the springs to change the setting.

meteoraman2514 · 11-21-2009, 06:06 PM

set them at 2.5" for sure. get it aligned and see if they get it back to specs. if they can't then you know you need aftermarket uca's

jdrhodes · 11-21-2009, 06:12 PM

Well, I am trying to avoid aftermarket uca's for the time being. You know.....christmas gifts, salary cuts, wifes 2010 volvo payment!, etc.....

MonkeyProof · 11-21-2009, 06:16 PM

i had no problem with the 5100's at 2.5" and stock UCA's..had alignment done right after the install and all numbers were still correct..except for toe on the passenger side, but i know what curb job caused that lol.

yosh2000 · 11-21-2009, 09:14 PM

been running the bils at 2.5" and OEM UCAs for nearly two years now. alignment is nearly spot on. OEM 245 tires have some outer wear and cupping, but it isnt really that bad.

i vote for 2.5" in front.

jdrhodes · 11-22-2009, 05:25 AM

Bump

gsanderson · 11-22-2009, 06:01 PM

Let us know what you do and how the alignment works out...

I have new leaf packs coming in a week and am expecting to go 2.5 with the billys in the front...

I was not expecting alignment issues but now that you mention it I am concerned... I drive highway 98% of the time so I want quality ride and minimal maintenance but I do like the lifted look... I am not interested in new UCA so I may need to go lower

Keep us updated...

T@co_Pr3runn3r · 11-23-2009, 06:46 AM

I'm 2.5 stock uca's but am going with aftermarket uca's just to take alignment issues out of the mix. It may be borderline aligned but am going to eliminate any excuses for it not to be aligned perfectly.

ToyTec Lifts · 11-23-2009, 09:13 AM

You can definitely get an alignment to where you tires don't wear.
It's mostly just a tracking issue.
The owners got the Ultimate kit, a full 3 inches in front of his 09 Taco with stock UCA's.

gsanderson · 11-23-2009, 11:31 AM

Most of you seem to be refering to 2nd generation trucks... what about 1st gen trucks such as mine...

Can I get the proper alignment with the full 2.5" that the Billys give without new UCA's...

would I be better to go with 1.75 or does it really matter...

Also, what is tracking?

Thanks.

T@co_Pr3runn3r · 11-23-2009, 02:29 PM

Tracking is when caster is off and it wanders or tracks grooves on uneven surfaces. Twitchy is a good descriptor. Yeah, tires won't wear but drives like shit at frwy speed following all the seams.

ToyTec Lifts · 11-24-2009, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsanderson

Most of you seem to be refering to 2nd generation trucks... what about 1st gen trucks such as mine...

Can I get the proper alignment with the full 2.5" that the Billys give without new UCA's...

would I be better to go with 1.75 or does it really matter...

Also, what is tracking?

Thanks.

I own a 01 Tacoma with our Ultimate Kit on it, and we got mine without trouble.

The lower you go, yes, the 'better' it will be for alignment, etc. My tracking is not horrible, but I am at the FULL 3 inches up front.

T@co_Pr3runn3r · 11-24-2009, 06:17 AM

All-Pro's = 650.00
TC = 650.00
LR = 678.00

hoos got used?

jdrhodes · 11-24-2009, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T@co_Pr3runn3r

All-Pro's = 650.00
TC = 650.00
LR = 678.00

hoos got used?

Still expensive, but I think you can get LR for around 450.00 Anyway my truck is at the shop right now. I decided to go with 1.75 setting and I have the 1.5 aal (non tsb) May go up to 2.5 later

T@co_Pr3runn3r · 11-24-2009, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdrhodes

Still expensive, but I think you can get LR for around 450.00 Anyway my truck is at the shop right now. I decided to go with 1.75 setting and I have the 1.5 aal (non tsb) May go up to 2.5 later

Where, who has LR at that price? Trying to see if DSM has a bro deal on the TC's but forgot his user name. Trying to find posts to send PM.

ToyTec Lifts · 11-24-2009, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T@co_Pr3runn3r

Where, who has LR at that price? Trying to see if DSM has a bro deal on the TC's but forgot his user name. Trying to find posts to send PM.

Are we talking about the Light Racing UCA's for a second gen taco?
We've got them in stock ready to ship.
Plus forum discount.

PM sent.

jdrhodes · 11-24-2009, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T@co_Pr3runn3r

Where, who has LR at that price? Trying to see if DSM has a bro deal on the TC's but forgot his user name. Trying to find posts to send PM.

Yeah, toytec has them for 449.99 without the TW discount. Who knows maybe they will be 399.99 on black friday!!!

65tacodude · 11-24-2009, 10:28 AM

Yeah, I had no problem getting it aligned. Just make sure you take it to a shop thats done work on lifted 4x4's and they should get it back into specs

jdrhodes · 11-24-2009, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsanderson

Let us know what you do and how the alignment works out...

I have new leaf packs coming in a week and am expecting to go 2.5 with the billys in the front...

I was not expecting alignment issues but now that you mention it I am concerned... I drive highway 98% of the time so I want quality ride and minimal maintenance but I do like the lifted look... I am not interested in new UCA so I may need to go lower

Keep us updated...

I installed a 1.5" AAL 3 days ago and then had the 5100s set at 1.75" installed today. The truck looks good. Only thing is that it is pretty dead level and I am afraid the AAL may settle some leaving me nose high. I would recomment getting the 2.0" AAL if you don't have tsb springs If I had it to do over again I would have gotten the 2.0" I did have some vibrations when I picked up the truck from the alignment shop but they have mysteriously went away. Not sure if things just settled in or what but it seems fine now. No tracking or wondering either. I will let you know if any vibs come back. I really like the look and can see myself going a little higher in the future. I plan on installing 265/75 mud terrains in a couple of months.

sincitytaco · 11-24-2009, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToyTec Lifts

You can definitely get an alignment to where you tires don't wear.
It's mostly just a tracking issue.
The owners got the Ultimate kit, a full 3 inches in front of his 09 Taco with stock UCA's.

WRONG!!!. You will have a slight bit of positive camber. When you make a turn the outter tire will gain even more positive camber, hence causing most of the tire out edge wearing and tire cupping.
With that being said I have about 16000 miles on my truck with about 2.3 inches of lift and it drives fine and my tires are looking fine still after the 10000 miles. I do rotate them though every 5000 - 7000 miles.

11-21-2009, 06:04 PM	#1
jdrhodes Ahh! Spring! Joined: Jul 2008, #7704 Location: north carolina Gender: Male Posts: 247 07 PreRunner Double Cab 2007 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 V6 BFG A/T's, AVS vent visors, AVS hood shield, pioneer avic F900BT, pac steering wheel control adapter, Boyo rearview camera, pac ipod interface, bully rear hitch step, tinted windows, Toytec 1.5 AAL, Bistein 5100s (front set to 1.75) Black bezel headlights, grillcraft black billet insert, N-fab light bar, 4 Hella FF700 lights & color matched grille, Sockmonkey bedside decals. Coming soon: Satin Black powdercoated rims, FJ TRD centers, spidertraxx spacers. Wish list: TC UCA's, OME coils.......	5100s at 2.5" with stock uca's? Installed the toytech 1.5" AAL on the sucky 3 leaf pack today and got 1.75" of lift. Now the rear sits 3.5" higher than the front. I am having bilstein 5100s installed in a couple of days and was going to have them set at 1.75" but now think I should set them to the max 2.5" to level out with the rear. I am concerned about alignment issues at 2.5" however with stock uca's. How many of you guys are running the 5100s at 2.5" and still using stock uca's? Were you able to get the front end aligned properly? Anyone started out at 2.5" and went down to 1.75"? For what reason? Thanks guys, I just want to get it right the first time since you have to compress the springs to change the setting.

11-21-2009, 06:16 PM	#4
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11-21-2009, 09:14 PM	#5
yosh2000 Senior Member Joined: Sep 2007, #2733 Location: Temecula, CA Gender: Dude Posts: 1,542 05 White Prerunner 2005 Access Cab Automatic	been running the bils at 2.5" and OEM UCAs for nearly two years now. alignment is nearly spot on. OEM 245 tires have some outer wear and cupping, but it isnt really that bad. i vote for 2.5" in front. __________________ Want an OEM HID retrofit (no PNP crap!), see here! Want LEDs swapped in your cluster in Socal, see here!

11-23-2009, 09:13 AM	#9
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11-21-2009, 06:06 PM	#2
meteoraman2514 this is my title Name: Brett Joined: May 2009, #16692 Location: Hurricane, W.V. Age: 21 Gender: Male Posts: 2,749 06 Tacoma DC TRD Sport 2006 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 V6 5100's front (.85")/rear, TSB leaf pack265/70/17 Nitto Terra Grapplers, Flowmaster 40 series Delta Flow dual exhaust, 5% tint all around, Wet Okoles, K&N air filter	set them at 2.5" for sure. get it aligned and see if they get it back to specs. if they can't then you know you need aftermarket uca's

11-21-2009, 06:12 PM	#3
jdrhodes Ahh! Spring! Joined: Jul 2008, #7704 Location: north carolina Gender: Male Posts: 247 07 PreRunner Double Cab 2007 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 V6 BFG A/T's, AVS vent visors, AVS hood shield, pioneer avic F900BT, pac steering wheel control adapter, Boyo rearview camera, pac ipod interface, bully rear hitch step, tinted windows, Toytec 1.5 AAL, Bistein 5100s (front set to 1.75) Black bezel headlights, grillcraft black billet insert, N-fab light bar, 4 Hella FF700 lights & color matched grille, Sockmonkey bedside decals. Coming soon: Satin Black powdercoated rims, FJ TRD centers, spidertraxx spacers. Wish list: TC UCA's, OME coils.......	Well, I am trying to avoid aftermarket uca's for the time being. You know.....christmas gifts, salary cuts, wifes 2010 volvo payment!, etc.....

11-22-2009, 05:25 AM	#6
jdrhodes Ahh! Spring! Joined: Jul 2008, #7704 Location: north carolina Gender: Male Posts: 247 07 PreRunner Double Cab 2007 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 V6 BFG A/T's, AVS vent visors, AVS hood shield, pioneer avic F900BT, pac steering wheel control adapter, Boyo rearview camera, pac ipod interface, bully rear hitch step, tinted windows, Toytec 1.5 AAL, Bistein 5100s (front set to 1.75) Black bezel headlights, grillcraft black billet insert, N-fab light bar, 4 Hella FF700 lights & color matched grille, Sockmonkey bedside decals. Coming soon: Satin Black powdercoated rims, FJ TRD centers, spidertraxx spacers. Wish list: TC UCA's, OME coils.......	Bump

11-22-2009, 06:01 PM	#7
gsanderson Junior Member Joined: Oct 2009, #24898 Location: Nashville, TN Gender: Male Posts: 22 95.5 Tacoma X-cab 4X4 1995 Xtra Cab Manual	Let us know what you do and how the alignment works out... I have new leaf packs coming in a week and am expecting to go 2.5 with the billys in the front... I was not expecting alignment issues but now that you mention it I am concerned... I drive highway 98% of the time so I want quality ride and minimal maintenance but I do like the lifted look... I am not interested in new UCA so I may need to go lower Keep us updated...

11-23-2009, 06:46 AM	#8
T@co_Pr3runn3r <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> Joined: Jan 2009, #12767 Location: LAT 29 76 63.01N LON 95 36 45.10W Age: 49 Gender: Dude Posts: 2,692 05 Prerunner 2.7 5spd 2005 Access Cab Manual 2.7l 4cyl WeatherTec floormats, ventguards, 35w 6k HID fogs, tint, tailgate lock, grom usb/ipod/mp3 input, 5100s, WO seatcovers, aFe dropin, int wipers, oem cruise control, ccfl halo proj headlights, smittybuilt light bar,recovery hitch shackle, oem bedmat, black nerfs, black'd out 3rd brk lite, black tails, tailgate theft mod & popnlock, LR UCAs, TRD skid..........so far	I'm 2.5 stock uca's but am going with aftermarket uca's just to take alignment issues out of the mix. It may be borderline aligned but am going to eliminate any excuses for it not to be aligned perfectly.

11-23-2009, 11:31 AM	#10
gsanderson Junior Member Joined: Oct 2009, #24898 Location: Nashville, TN Gender: Male Posts: 22 95.5 Tacoma X-cab 4X4 1995 Xtra Cab Manual	Most of you seem to be refering to 2nd generation trucks... what about 1st gen trucks such as mine... Can I get the proper alignment with the full 2.5" that the Billys give without new UCA's... would I be better to go with 1.75 or does it really matter... Also, what is tracking? Thanks.

11-23-2009, 02:29 PM	#11
T@co_Pr3runn3r <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> Joined: Jan 2009, #12767 Location: LAT 29 76 63.01N LON 95 36 45.10W Age: 49 Gender: Dude Posts: 2,692 05 Prerunner 2.7 5spd 2005 Access Cab Manual 2.7l 4cyl WeatherTec floormats, ventguards, 35w 6k HID fogs, tint, tailgate lock, grom usb/ipod/mp3 input, 5100s, WO seatcovers, aFe dropin, int wipers, oem cruise control, ccfl halo proj headlights, smittybuilt light bar,recovery hitch shackle, oem bedmat, black nerfs, black'd out 3rd brk lite, black tails, tailgate theft mod & popnlock, LR UCAs, TRD skid..........so far	Tracking is when caster is off and it wanders or tracks grooves on uneven surfaces. Twitchy is a good descriptor. Yeah, tires won't wear but drives like shit at frwy speed following all the seams.

11-24-2009, 06:17 AM	#13
T@co_Pr3runn3r <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>> Joined: Jan 2009, #12767 Location: LAT 29 76 63.01N LON 95 36 45.10W Age: 49 Gender: Dude Posts: 2,692 05 Prerunner 2.7 5spd 2005 Access Cab Manual 2.7l 4cyl WeatherTec floormats, ventguards, 35w 6k HID fogs, tint, tailgate lock, grom usb/ipod/mp3 input, 5100s, WO seatcovers, aFe dropin, int wipers, oem cruise control, ccfl halo proj headlights, smittybuilt light bar,recovery hitch shackle, oem bedmat, black nerfs, black'd out 3rd brk lite, black tails, tailgate theft mod & popnlock, LR UCAs, TRD skid..........so far	All-Pro's = 650.00 TC = 650.00 LR = 678.00 hoos got used?

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