Opinion of the Bilstein 5100's

XxMalfunktionxX · 03-24-2008, 04:51 PM

Ya thanks couch..I have mine set at stock height with the spacers..thats as high as I can take them..hmmm..i wonder..if I take the spacers out and adjust the 5100's themselves to the higher position..I wonder if it will look higher than it is now?

Id imagine it might be a little stiffer ride? The 5100s are a little taller shock so who knows..

roxspin72 · 03-24-2008, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndcouch

just so you know. it is HIGHLY recomended that you NOT use spacers combined with the 5100's unless you run the shocks at stock height. Also, Roxspin, i'm not sure if i read your post correctly or not, but you mentioned using the 5100's to raise the back end about an inch. the front 5100's are adjustable. the rear 5100's are stock size only and cannot be adjusted for added height. just FYI

Got it...

Read into it more and noticed that the shock was designed for lift, or something in that respect. Oh well, I will hold what i got and work on a few other Mods that have gained my interest.

Thanks for the advice...

nd · 03-25-2008, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XxMalfunktionxX

Ya thanks couch..I have mine set at stock height with the spacers..thats as high as I can take them..hmmm..i wonder..if I take the spacers out and adjust the 5100's themselves to the higher position..I wonder if it will look higher than it is now?

Id imagine it might be a little stiffer ride? The 5100s are a little taller shock so who knows..

you can take the spacers out and adjust the shock to .85, 1.75 or 2.5 inches. if you have a 3 inch spacer lift with the 5100's at stock then tht will be higher than if you took the spacers out and adjusted the shocks. just so you know, for every setting you go higher with these shocks, you gain height but loose a little of your comfy ride. every setting compresses the springs just a little more so at 2.5 the front end is very stiff.

XxMalfunktionxX · 03-25-2008, 09:31 AM

Yes sir I figured that is what would happen..it would get nice and stiff up front..which..would make it nice off road..but the street ride would suffer just a tad i guess..

XxMalfunktionxX · 03-25-2008, 09:35 AM

But thats ok, I got the info I needed from the guys at Camburg Engineering out here in Huntington Beach, Ca. I am gonna be getting theyre new Long Travel Kit that is going to be released within a few weeks..apparently they have a system already in place for my truck however they are finishing up a newer better one from what I was told..

This is from the email that he sent me..

Hey Joe,

Our new LT System for the 05-08 Tacoma will be available in the next few weeks as we are finishing up with this new system. Depending on exactly what you want as far as coilover and optional bypass as well as bump stops. The system itself is $3995, this includes upper arms, boxed lowers, steering extensions, brake lines, limit straps, and Sway a way 2.5" coilovers. You will also need new axles in the front the cost $800. We also have upgrade options for this system, heim steering upgrade $495, heim upper arm pivots $249. Cost of install is $800. You will be able to run a 16" wheel with a 33" tire. Hopefully this answers your questions let me know if you have any others. Thanks

So needless to say..I am pretty sure I am gonna go with Camburg and have them set my rig up..

roxspin72 · 03-25-2008, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XxMalfunktionxX

But thats ok, I got the info I needed from the guys at Camburg Engineering out here in Huntington Beach, Ca. I am gonna be getting theyre new Long Travel Kit that is going to be released within a few weeks..apparently they have a system already in place for my truck however they are finishing up a newer better one from what I was told..

This is from the email that he sent me..

Hey Joe,

Our new LT System for the 05-08 Tacoma will be available in the next few weeks as we are finishing up with this new system. Depending on exactly what you want as far as coilover and optional bypass as well as bump stops. The system itself is $3995, this includes upper arms, boxed lowers, steering extensions, brake lines, limit straps, and Sway a way 2.5" coilovers. You will also need new axles in the front the cost $800. We also have upgrade options for this system, heim steering upgrade $495, heim upper arm pivots $249. Cost of install is $800. You will be able to run a 16" wheel with a 33" tire. Hopefully this answers your questions let me know if you have any others. Thanks

So needless to say..I am pretty sure I am gonna go with Camburg and have them set my rig up..

Damn thats a lot of cash for running 33's. I am running that now. I would go with a performance 6" FABTECH when available. Just an opinion...

jhodge83 · 03-25-2008, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roxspin72

Damn thats a lot of cash for running 33's. I am running that now. I would go with a performance 6" FABTECH when available. Just an opinion...

yeah...screw that for 2.5" lift in the front. i got that for $75

rick · 03-25-2008, 09:44 PM

just read your sig malfunction. are you running a spacer with your billys on the top notch?

XxMalfunktionxX · 03-26-2008, 08:44 AM

No my 5100s are at stock setting with my spacer installed..

I dont like Fabtech..I have heard alot of horror stories about their stuff breaking..and I had a 01 Silverado with a 3" spindle lift that was fabtech..I wasnt really impressed with it..I mean it wasnt horrible...but I was considering not buying them again when I lift another vehicle..

Its not about the tire size..its about the travel...at least for me it is..I can wheel just fine with 33 in tires..I also dont think he was mentioning the fact that I can also do some fiberglass work and that should be able to clear me at least to a 35'' tire with no problems..I think with theyre stock setup WITHOUT fab work..I can only run 33's but with some fab work..I think I can clear 35''s

I have heard that Camburgs stuff is damn near bulletproof..and I heard this from someone who is in the suspension business(he actually has worked on my truck before) and he told me that if I want to do it the right way..and have dependable suspension that will perform. Go Camburg he said.

Now im not saying that anyone here DOESNT know what theyre saying..I value your guys ideas and opinions alot! So please dont get me wrong..I'm just trying to soak up as much info before I do spend that money cuz yes..its alot of cash..

nd · 03-26-2008, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XxMalfunktionxX

Yes sir I figured that is what would happen..it would get nice and stiff up front..which..would make it nice off road..but the street ride would suffer just a tad i guess..

i have actually wondered about my offroad ride after the 5100's. they are definately stiffer and the street ride is not as smooth. i dont mind scraficing some comfort for style and function, but i'm wondering if its too stiff for offroading too. i'm worried that i will be bumped all over the cab. i need to go find a nice bumpy dirt road and test it out but i cant think of any around here off the top of my head. anyone have any experience offroading with 5100's set on 2.5 with stock coils?

XxMalfunktionxX · 03-26-2008, 10:13 AM

Yes..i hit the trails..its just a tad stiffer..but its not horrible..thats my two cents..you shouldnt get as much fade..which is good..

XxMalfunktionxX · 03-26-2008, 10:15 AM

I actually mis read that..I have my 5100s at stock setting..with my readylift kit installed on top..so it may differ..but I would imagine it being a little more stiff if the shocks itself are at top setting..

nd · 03-26-2008, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XxMalfunktionxX

Yes sir I figured that is what would happen..it would get nice and stiff up front..which..would make it nice off road..but the street ride would suffer just a tad i guess..

Quote:

Originally Posted by XxMalfunktionxX

I actually mis read that..I have my 5100s at stock setting..with my readylift kit installed on top..so it may differ..but I would imagine it being a little more stiff if the shocks itself are at top setting..

yeah its noticably stiffer. not a terrible ride but i'm worried about how they will perform on a really bumpy surface. they are ether gonna be great because of the superior dampening or suck because of the increased stiffness

XxMalfunktionxX · 03-26-2008, 11:20 AM

My guess is that it will be good..for the better at least..because of the greater dampening..

caliKxracer · 08-01-2008, 03:22 AM

i have mine at the highest preset, just got back from ocotillo this past weekend, and WOW i only had the front installed with stock trd back suspension, but dam, the front handled and rode so much better. i gained a little bit of down travel(enough to do real small jumps) and gained alot of stability (power slides on devils slide at 60mph+)

i have some spacers and kinda wanted to throw them on top to get some more lift, but then found out how much damage that was and tossed the idea

bambooshoots · 08-09-2008, 12:23 PM

Are 5100s all around worth it?

Will I run into any problems with front @ 1.75," rear 5100s on stock setting and an Alcan AAL?

I was thinking of only running front 5100s with the AAL but if the ride is much improved rear 5100s may be a possibility.

caliKxracer · 08-09-2008, 10:08 PM

def go witht the 5100s all around, its makes everything alot nicer off road, i actually fipped off my load spring so i could get more flex out of the 5100 rear, because with the stock 4 (3 long and 1 load) it was to stiff in the back, but now with just 3 long in the back its a much softer ride and perfect for romping in the desert

timmer · 08-10-2008, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bambooshoots

Are 5100s all around worth it?

Will I run into any problems with front @ 1.75," rear 5100s on stock setting and an Alcan AAL?

I was thinking of only running front 5100s with the AAL but if the ride is much improved rear 5100s may be a possibility.

This is pretty much an entry level suspension lift and yes its a good one

for TRD 5100 adj on front with one of the upper two settings and 5100 on back with Suspension TSB is just about entry level. slap some 265/75r16's or comparable under there and your pretty much good to go on any 3 or lower trail.

on class 4 or more trails those hub height or higher rocks and 12" + ledges and deep ruts are going to require more tire and lift plus a heaver spring with more travel.

caliKxracer · 08-10-2008, 10:38 AM

[quote=timmer;146964]

for TRD 5100 adj on front with one of the upper two settings and 5100 on back with Suspension TSB is just about entry level. slap some 265/75r16's or comparable under there and your pretty much good to go on any 3 or lower trail.

quote]

i found the tsb to be to hard in the rear, wouldnt flex enough, i ended up taking off the load spring and keeping the 3 long springs and it rides alot better now

KMADA · 10-07-2008, 03:39 PM

anyone using the toytec 3" spacer along with the 5100s at stock height? How would that be?

03-25-2008, 09:44 PM	#28
rick ` Joined: Mar 2007, #993 Location: sw florida Gender: Male Posts: 1,297 big tires and flashy rims 2007 Double Cab Automatic V6 another lifted taco, bilsteins (4), flowmaster40, afe drop in, lowpro toybox, etc...	just read your sig malfunction. are you running a spacer with your billys on the top notch? __________________

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Bilstein Shocks	mikenredding	Suspension	3	04-16-2008 10:25 PM
If I use 5100's and a 265/75/16 tire, will I get rub?	ERdept	Suspension	23	03-03-2008 04:50 AM

03-24-2008, 04:51 PM	#21
XxMalfunktionxX Member Joined: Aug 2007, #2463 Location: Orange County,California Posts: 99 2008 4x4 TRD SPORT SR5 Double Cab 2008 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 V6 K&N Drop in, Bilstein 5100's in front with Readylift kit on top for a 3 in. lift in the front and a 1 in. block in the rear. Next project is going to be TRD Supercharger and Camburg coilover long travel system with custom skid plate and tubes. Maybe some new tires and wheels then..	Ya thanks couch..I have mine set at stock height with the spacers..thats as high as I can take them..hmmm..i wonder..if I take the spacers out and adjust the 5100's themselves to the higher position..I wonder if it will look higher than it is now? Id imagine it might be a little stiffer ride? The 5100s are a little taller shock so who knows..

03-25-2008, 09:31 AM	#24
XxMalfunktionxX Member Joined: Aug 2007, #2463 Location: Orange County,California Posts: 99 2008 4x4 TRD SPORT SR5 Double Cab 2008 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 V6 K&N Drop in, Bilstein 5100's in front with Readylift kit on top for a 3 in. lift in the front and a 1 in. block in the rear. Next project is going to be TRD Supercharger and Camburg coilover long travel system with custom skid plate and tubes. Maybe some new tires and wheels then..	Yes sir I figured that is what would happen..it would get nice and stiff up front..which..would make it nice off road..but the street ride would suffer just a tad i guess..

03-25-2008, 09:35 AM	#25
XxMalfunktionxX Member Joined: Aug 2007, #2463 Location: Orange County,California Posts: 99 2008 4x4 TRD SPORT SR5 Double Cab 2008 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 V6 K&N Drop in, Bilstein 5100's in front with Readylift kit on top for a 3 in. lift in the front and a 1 in. block in the rear. Next project is going to be TRD Supercharger and Camburg coilover long travel system with custom skid plate and tubes. Maybe some new tires and wheels then..	But thats ok, I got the info I needed from the guys at Camburg Engineering out here in Huntington Beach, Ca. I am gonna be getting theyre new Long Travel Kit that is going to be released within a few weeks..apparently they have a system already in place for my truck however they are finishing up a newer better one from what I was told.. This is from the email that he sent me.. Hey Joe, Our new LT System for the 05-08 Tacoma will be available in the next few weeks as we are finishing up with this new system. Depending on exactly what you want as far as coilover and optional bypass as well as bump stops. The system itself is $3995, this includes upper arms, boxed lowers, steering extensions, brake lines, limit straps, and Sway a way 2.5" coilovers. You will also need new axles in the front the cost $800. We also have upgrade options for this system, heim steering upgrade $495, heim upper arm pivots $249. Cost of install is $800. You will be able to run a 16" wheel with a 33" tire. Hopefully this answers your questions let me know if you have any others. Thanks So needless to say..I am pretty sure I am gonna go with Camburg and have them set my rig up..

03-26-2008, 08:44 AM	#29
XxMalfunktionxX Member Joined: Aug 2007, #2463 Location: Orange County,California Posts: 99 2008 4x4 TRD SPORT SR5 Double Cab 2008 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 V6 K&N Drop in, Bilstein 5100's in front with Readylift kit on top for a 3 in. lift in the front and a 1 in. block in the rear. Next project is going to be TRD Supercharger and Camburg coilover long travel system with custom skid plate and tubes. Maybe some new tires and wheels then..	No my 5100s are at stock setting with my spacer installed.. I dont like Fabtech..I have heard alot of horror stories about their stuff breaking..and I had a 01 Silverado with a 3" spindle lift that was fabtech..I wasnt really impressed with it..I mean it wasnt horrible...but I was considering not buying them again when I lift another vehicle.. Its not about the tire size..its about the travel...at least for me it is..I can wheel just fine with 33 in tires..I also dont think he was mentioning the fact that I can also do some fiberglass work and that should be able to clear me at least to a 35'' tire with no problems..I think with theyre stock setup WITHOUT fab work..I can only run 33's but with some fab work..I think I can clear 35''s I have heard that Camburgs stuff is damn near bulletproof..and I heard this from someone who is in the suspension business(he actually has worked on my truck before) and he told me that if I want to do it the right way..and have dependable suspension that will perform. Go Camburg he said. Now im not saying that anyone here DOESNT know what theyre saying..I value your guys ideas and opinions alot! So please dont get me wrong..I'm just trying to soak up as much info before I do spend that money cuz yes..its alot of cash..

03-26-2008, 10:13 AM	#31
XxMalfunktionxX Member Joined: Aug 2007, #2463 Location: Orange County,California Posts: 99 2008 4x4 TRD SPORT SR5 Double Cab 2008 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 V6 K&N Drop in, Bilstein 5100's in front with Readylift kit on top for a 3 in. lift in the front and a 1 in. block in the rear. Next project is going to be TRD Supercharger and Camburg coilover long travel system with custom skid plate and tubes. Maybe some new tires and wheels then..	Yes..i hit the trails..its just a tad stiffer..but its not horrible..thats my two cents..you shouldnt get as much fade..which is good..

03-26-2008, 10:15 AM	#32
XxMalfunktionxX Member Joined: Aug 2007, #2463 Location: Orange County,California Posts: 99 2008 4x4 TRD SPORT SR5 Double Cab 2008 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 V6 K&N Drop in, Bilstein 5100's in front with Readylift kit on top for a 3 in. lift in the front and a 1 in. block in the rear. Next project is going to be TRD Supercharger and Camburg coilover long travel system with custom skid plate and tubes. Maybe some new tires and wheels then..	I actually mis read that..I have my 5100s at stock setting..with my readylift kit installed on top..so it may differ..but I would imagine it being a little more stiff if the shocks itself are at top setting..

03-26-2008, 11:20 AM	#34
XxMalfunktionxX Member Joined: Aug 2007, #2463 Location: Orange County,California Posts: 99 2008 4x4 TRD SPORT SR5 Double Cab 2008 Double Cab Automatic 4.0 V6 K&N Drop in, Bilstein 5100's in front with Readylift kit on top for a 3 in. lift in the front and a 1 in. block in the rear. Next project is going to be TRD Supercharger and Camburg coilover long travel system with custom skid plate and tubes. Maybe some new tires and wheels then..	My guess is that it will be good..for the better at least..because of the greater dampening..

08-01-2008, 03:22 AM	#35
caliKxracer Member Joined: Jul 2008, #8240 Location: san diego Age: 16 Posts: 86 2000 Class 7 Tacoma 2000 Access Cab Automatic Supercharged 3.4l v6 Camburg Race Long Travel Front-2" uniballs 16inches of travel, Custom 3link rear, strapped at 36inches ford 9inch rear with locker, cage bumper to bumper, one piece clip, ranger wide bedsides, 2 sets of beard seats with crow straps, cold air intake	i have mine at the highest preset, just got back from ocotillo this past weekend, and WOW i only had the front installed with stock trd back suspension, but dam, the front handled and rode so much better. i gained a little bit of down travel(enough to do real small jumps) and gained alot of stability (power slides on devils slide at 60mph+) i have some spacers and kinda wanted to throw them on top to get some more lift, but then found out how much damage that was and tossed the idea

08-09-2008, 12:23 PM	#36
bambooshoots Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008, #7645 Location: Texas Posts: 155 05 DC PreRunner TRD Off Road 2005 Double Cab Automatic 4.0L V6	Are 5100s all around worth it? Will I run into any problems with front @ 1.75," rear 5100s on stock setting and an Alcan AAL? I was thinking of only running front 5100s with the AAL but if the ride is much improved rear 5100s may be a possibility.

08-09-2008, 10:08 PM	#37
caliKxracer Member Joined: Jul 2008, #8240 Location: san diego Age: 16 Posts: 86 2000 Class 7 Tacoma 2000 Access Cab Automatic Supercharged 3.4l v6 Camburg Race Long Travel Front-2" uniballs 16inches of travel, Custom 3link rear, strapped at 36inches ford 9inch rear with locker, cage bumper to bumper, one piece clip, ranger wide bedsides, 2 sets of beard seats with crow straps, cold air intake	def go witht the 5100s all around, its makes everything alot nicer off road, i actually fipped off my load spring so i could get more flex out of the 5100 rear, because with the stock 4 (3 long and 1 load) it was to stiff in the back, but now with just 3 long in the back its a much softer ride and perfect for romping in the desert

08-10-2008, 10:38 AM	#39
caliKxracer Member Joined: Jul 2008, #8240 Location: san diego Age: 16 Posts: 86 2000 Class 7 Tacoma 2000 Access Cab Automatic Supercharged 3.4l v6 Camburg Race Long Travel Front-2" uniballs 16inches of travel, Custom 3link rear, strapped at 36inches ford 9inch rear with locker, cage bumper to bumper, one piece clip, ranger wide bedsides, 2 sets of beard seats with crow straps, cold air intake	[quote=timmer;146964] for TRD 5100 adj on front with one of the upper two settings and 5100 on back with Suspension TSB is just about entry level. slap some 265/75r16's or comparable under there and your pretty much good to go on any 3 or lower trail. quote] i found the tsb to be to hard in the rear, wouldnt flex enough, i ended up taking off the load spring and keeping the 3 long springs and it rides alot better now

10-07-2008, 03:39 PM	#40
KMADA Member Joined: Aug 2008, #8859 Location: Long Beach, CA Gender: Male Posts: 67 08 prerunner trd sport 2008 Double Cab Automatic 15% tint, 6k HIDs, K&N intake	anyone using the toytec 3" spacer along with the 5100s at stock height? How would that be?