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jakeworthy 10-20-2012 01:02 AM

5100 and OME 885 install problems. HELP!!
 
I installed my 5100 and OME 885x coils today and ran into a couple problems. First off I forgot the washer that goes on the top of the shock underneath the top plate (my bad) so after taking it all back out and installing that washer and putting it all back on, the top nut on each shock can't go any tighter and I have about a 1/8-1/4in gap between my bushing/washer and the nuts. So there is like no pressure on the washer and bushing. Do I need new bushings? Not sure what the problem is.
I used the method on here following the video.

The second issue I have is that I'm way to dreaming high in the front!!! I'm gained like 4in from top of tire to wheel well!! What the hell!? An one ever seen that much?

Any insight would help. Thanks!

here are some pics.

this is before i added the washer i forgot but its still doing this even after iput it in. just not as much. like 1/8-1/4"
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...2/photo8-1.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...222/image1.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...222/image2.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...222/photo9.jpg

DDD 10-20-2012 01:20 AM

The shock rod bushing and washer pattern should be like this:

Nut

Washer arching down

Bushing

Top plate

Bushing

Washer arching up

Shock plastic dust cover with metal insert



As for the ride height, double check the bottom coil spring perch is not upside down and the coil spring it's self is not upside down. And for the 0 setting the c-clip should be at the lowest setting.

Post some pictures...

DDD 10-20-2012 01:28 AM

Uuh. Those look like the 5100s for 1st gen tacomas. The lower spring perch looks like black steel. Not the unpainted aluminum on the 2nd gen.

Plus you are missing the dust boot...

DDD 10-20-2012 01:29 AM

What part number is on the shocks?

jakeworthy 10-20-2012 01:31 AM

does the dust boot matter? i have it but what is that going to change? and as for the black spring perch, im pretty sure they now come with those. at first i thought that maybe i had the wrong size billies but i double checked the part numbers and im pretty sure its right. box says 24-185711

jakeworthy 10-20-2012 01:36 AM

I ment 24-186711

DDD 10-20-2012 01:41 AM

Yes it does matter. The plastic boot has a metal spacer inside it that will cause the shock shaft to stick up past the top plate if not used. You can take the metal spacer out of the plastic boot if you want but it needs to be on the shock under the bottom washer.




Not sure if they changed to black steel coil seats for the 2nd gens. If so that's news to me. If they did not change to black steel spring seats then maybe they put the wrong spring seats in your boxes...

jakeworthy 10-20-2012 01:46 AM

Ok we'll tomorrow il look into adding the boot. But that Still leaves me with this crazy 4in lift. According to DSM... "

'Bilstein 5100 Series Ride Height Adjustable Front shocks for a '05-'12 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 & 2wd TRD (Pre-Runner)

Shocks are for 6 Lug vehicles Only!!!

Front Shock Part #: BE5-C475-H1

These are the "Front Shocks" only

Please Read: There has been a running change to this shock and the part # is now a 24-186711 and it will have a Stamped Black Lower Spring Plate
not an Aluminum one as seen in the picture'

http://downsouthmotorsports.com/i-13...djustable.html

DDD 10-20-2012 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakeworthy (Post 5864464)

Please Read: There has been a running change to this shock and the part # is now a 24-186711 and it will have a Stamped Black Lower Spring Plate
not an Aluminum one as seen in the picture'

http://downsouthmotorsports.com/i-13...djustable.html


Ok. I learned something new.

jakeworthy 10-20-2012 01:53 AM

I wish it was something like wrong part number. Cuz idk what else to do

ajohnson 10-20-2012 03:38 AM

What made you get the 885 coils? They are recommended for double cabs or access cabs with a heavy off road bumper.

I think you should have gone with 884 coils unless you plan to add a steel bumper.

pringles808 10-20-2012 03:56 AM

double check to see whether or not the billies are set to the "0" setting. thats the only reason i could think of why your getting 4" of lift. 2" of lift for the spring + 2" of lift from the shock = 4"

671taco 10-20-2012 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajohnson (Post 5864511)
What made you get the 885 coils? They are recommended for double cabs or access cabs with a heavy off road bumper.

I think you should have gone with 884 coils unless you plan to add a steel bumper.

i'm running 885x's and 5100s on my regular cab with no problems and no intentions of adding a plate bumper. rides fine for me.

OP i too forgot to put that washer on during install..took it apart again to put it on. i agree with the others make sure your bottom plate isn't upside down and set at 0.

jakeworthy 10-20-2012 09:56 AM

I am going to go check all these things right now. And as for getting the 885s, I was told by many people these would be good, and many people are using them with no heavy jumpers and are ok. Thanks for all the 2 cents. Hope I get this figured out

jakeworthy 10-20-2012 10:22 AM

ok guys, the spring pirch is not upside down, the coil is not upside down, and it is set on the lowest setting. to me it almost seems like the shocks are too long or soemthing.

ajohnson 10-20-2012 10:27 AM

I can tell from the pic they are set up correctly as far as the spring cup, you are just missing the dust boot.

You may just need to drive it a bit and see if the springs settle. Have you driven it at all?

THExBUSxDRIVER 10-20-2012 10:34 AM

In your fourth picture they do look awkwardly long. I used to have them and remember them being shorter.

You should measure them off of the shock and call up some places to compare numbers.

jakeworthy 10-20-2012 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajohnson (Post 5865321)
I can tell from the pic they are set up correctly as far as the spring cup, you are just missing the dust boot.

You may just need to drive it a bit and see if the springs settle. Have you driven it at all?

No I haven't driven it much except for parking it on the driveway last night. You think it was settle 2inches!?

jakeworthy 10-20-2012 11:02 AM

Well I looked and the new shocks are almost exactly the same size as my old ones. The 885s must be giving me too much lift...

ajohnson 10-20-2012 11:11 AM

Do the springs have a number on them? Check them too and make sure you got the right ones.

No they will not settle 2 inches, they should settle atleast a 1/2" someone correct me if I am wrong.


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