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Bad Suspension or Twisted Frame??

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by DUCKSHOT, Apr 23, 2013.

  1. Apr 23, 2013 at 8:01 PM
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    01 Tacoma stock, original suspension and has been like this since I bought it 7 years ago. What is the cause to this? Any ideas?
    Putting an OME lift with new leaf packs hopefully soon. If it doesn't fix the problem I'd rather not spend the money. Suspension is shot so I have to replace it either way.

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  2. Apr 23, 2013 at 8:07 PM
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  3. Apr 23, 2013 at 8:10 PM
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    Anything specific I need to get in the shot or any angles I should be at?
     
  4. Apr 24, 2013 at 6:29 PM
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  5. Apr 24, 2013 at 6:36 PM
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    From the pics, looks to be spring issues. Without having detailed frame pics or measurements to look over, go with springs since you said you already plan on doing them. Check it out after and keep us updated.

    And nice ass-mouth. Chit must be custom, no?
     
  6. Apr 24, 2013 at 6:39 PM
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    dayam.. those springs are pretty flat.
     
  7. Apr 25, 2013 at 4:35 PM
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    Looks like it could be the springs. There is less distance between the bumpstomp and the frame on the passenger side compared to the drivers side. But, from the original picture the box is off by quite a bit. Almost makes me think box mount. Also do you hear any clunks while going down the road while hitting bumps? A picture of the rear shackles and rear box mount where it attaches to the frame at the very rear would be helpful.
     
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  8. Apr 25, 2013 at 6:09 PM
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    Take a look at your shackles. One of your shackles could be locked up and not moving freely. Compare both shackles and the positions they are sitting in. They should both look about the same an in the same position on both sides. The shackle bolts and the sleeves inside will often rust together and they can't flex. You may want to jack up the rear end and 'watch' the shackles move up/down as the suspension moves.

    Chances are - when you change your leaf springs, I'm willing to bet you'll have to cut the shackle bolts just to free the shackles. Been there done that...
     
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  9. Apr 26, 2013 at 5:35 AM
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    Could be the frame. Mine looked like that too and I could never get the alignment right, took it to the body shop and had it put on frame machine. Got bad news that day!!! Mine was bent all over the place. Called my insurance and they bought the truck because the frame guy wasn't sure if he could get it completely straight
     
  10. Apr 26, 2013 at 11:54 AM
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    So here is a pic of the shackles. They look the same ro me. Should I get new ones when I redo the suspension?


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  11. Apr 28, 2013 at 6:42 AM
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    Come on guys I need some help here please.
    If this is just a suspension issue then I'll get the 3" OME lift I want. If it's a twisted frame then I'm gunna keep it stock.
    Need to replace the suspension ASAP.
     
  12. Apr 28, 2013 at 7:06 PM
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    I responded the other day but for whatever reason my post didn't show up. I think it's that passenger side leaf spring. The shackle looks like it's pushed back further than the drivers side. Same principle as a leaf flexing, it becomes flat(longer) and pushes the shackle back. In your case the spring looks worn out(more flat) and is pushing the shackle back. I don't think it's a case of a mount being rusted because the underneath of your truck looks pretty decent.

    The only way to find out if you have a twisted frame is to obtain the OEM specifications for the frame(the factory service manual should have that) and get underneath the truck and measure. It will list specific spots on the frame and what the distance should be. How does the truck drive? Pretty straight or does it pull?
     
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  13. Apr 28, 2013 at 7:33 PM
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    I'm thinking it's the shackle and the spring. Smaller gap on the passenger side comapred to driver side.
    The truck drives straight and never had any issues with alignment.
    Now to compile a list of parts I need for the lift!!
     
  14. Apr 28, 2013 at 7:40 PM
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    Calm down man !!....:) Looking at the rear its pretty obvious that your springs need help, what I find strange is that its the pass. side thats drooped out & not the dr. side, hmm interesting, anyway your pass. spring is more fatigued, but both surely have linear warping you can see it, your choices are to rebuild it, with either a standard AAL (probably short term fix) custom build your springs (permanent fix) or name brand springs (permanent fix) most will tell you to just fork out the $$$$$$$$ for new set. which ever way you go you need to educate yourself so you can make an informed choice to fit your needs
     
  15. Apr 28, 2013 at 7:41 PM
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    My money is down on that :thumbsup: let us know how it turns out!
     
  16. Apr 28, 2013 at 7:44 PM
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    yup, spring issue. Mine were that flat at 160k when I replaced them.
     
  17. Apr 28, 2013 at 7:45 PM
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    how long has it been like that? and have you done anything worthy of twisting the frame? if it's just lived it's life as a street truck and you havnt been in any major accident, it's 99% the suspension.
     
  18. Apr 28, 2013 at 7:52 PM
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    I bought the truck in 06 I think and no accidents with me behind the wheel. I was in an accident before but don't know what.
    Oh yeah, I'm Going with an OME 3" lift w/Dakar leaf pack.
     

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