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Old 08-17-2010, 09:52 PM   #2
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not that I know of.
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Nope. You have a central axle disconnect.
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There isn't a kit and most likely won't be. It's not cost effective for manufactures.
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it has to be possible. 96-04 tacos had a kit. people on ttora arent too friendly..........
thats because the 95.5 - 2000 came stock with manual hubs (well, it was an option). This means the spindles can be taken from one of those years and used on an '01-'04. 05+ never had manual hubs.
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Old 08-18-2010, 04:57 AM   #9
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are the hubs the same from a first gen?? i saw a kit on a 02 dcab taco. this guy has camburg long travel with manual locking hubs. its possible
again, thats an '02, totally different from the '05+...
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are the hubs the same from a first gen?? i saw a kit on a 02 dcab taco. this guy has camburg long travel with manual locking hubs. its possible
No, the axle shafts are larger on a second gen.
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Seriously, here is something to consider. The main purpose of a manual hub conversion is to guard against CV boot wear on suspension lifted trucks, and maybe some wear and tear on some components. But you aren't really "wearing" anything since there is no power being applied in 2wd. It's free wheeling.

Look at how much one of these kits cost for the 1st Gen, over $1000. Are you willing to pay +$1000 for a kit that really only protects CV boots (if one exsisted)? Do you realize you can get the entire half shaft (from differential to hub) for less than $100? And CV boots are $10-20max? You would have to go through (replace) the half shafts 15 times or the CV boots 75-150 times in order to make a manual hub kit cost effective.

I think people realized this and that's why no one offers a kit for the 2nd gens.
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Seriously, here is something to consider. The main purpose of a manual hub conversion is to guard against CV boot wear on suspension lifted trucks, and maybe some wear and tear on some components. But you aren't really "wearing" anything since there is no power being applied in 2wd. It's free wheeling.

Look at how much one of these kits cost for the 1st Gen, over $1000. Are you willing to pay +$1000 for a kit that really only protects CV boots (if one exsisted)? Do you realize you can get the entire half shaft (from differential to hub) for less than $100? And CV boots are $10-20max? You would have to go through (replace) the half shafts 15 times or the CV boots 75-150 times in order to make a manual hub kit cost effective.

I think people realized this and that's why no one offers a kit for the 2nd gens.
Also manual kit was for those that wanted run auto lockers on the front, or things like truetrac
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Also manual kit was for those that wanted run auto lockers on the front, or things like truetrac
You can run those without manaul hubs in the front.
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You can run those without manaul hubs in the front.
Truetrac was only for manual hubs, atleast last time I asked Eaton, (2 years ago) If eaton got that workign After I sold my pickup I am going to be upset
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Truetrac was only for manual hubs, atleast last time I asked Eaton, (2 years ago) If eaton got that workign After I sold my pickup I am going to be upset
Some say "It's not recommended". I have never seen any vendor or Eaton for that matter say that the Truetrac specify it was for manual hubs only. I find this interesting because none of their literature (that I can find anyway) states that also. In no way am I "calling you out" or calling you a liar. I just think this is good topic for discussion.
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Some say "It's not recommended". I have never seen any vendor or Eaton for that matter say that the Truetrac specify it was for manual hubs only. I find this interesting because none of their literature (that I can find anyway) states that also. In no way am I "calling you out" or calling you a liar. I just think this is good topic for discussion.
There are like 1000 threads on TTORA 1 gen Tacoma about that.
here is one.
http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29496
I called Eaton when I wanted to put Truetrac on the front of my 99 and they said its manual hubs only (as if Non-ADD). I was looking for parts to convert to manual hubs but Toyota bought back the truck before hand
Another thread with even more info
http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthrea...light=Truetrac
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Great info BlueT. So it appears to be a design difference between the diffs which won't allow you to use a TT in the ADD diff.

I found a recent Eaton catalog (6/10) here. On page 8 it gives the available TT's for all Toyota's axles, front and rear. I did notice under the 4 cyl front section a 7.5 TT (911A644) that doesn't have the "t" designation next to it for the years 1995-2004. The "t" meaning "will not fit selector disconnect" or ADD. Is that posibbly a Hilux application?




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Great info BlueT. So it appears to be a design difference between the diffs which won't allow you to use a TT in the ADD diff.

I found a recent Eaton catalog (6/10) here. On page 8 it gives the available TT's for all Toyota's axles, front and rear. I did notice under the 4 cyl front section a 7.5 TT (911A644) that doesn't have the "t" designation next to it for the years 1995-2004. The "t" meaning "will not fit selector disconnect" or ADD. Is that posibbly a Hilux application?




Hmm maybe they finally got to making ADD Truetrac, too bad most of 1 gen's got crushed
Great timing, so we should get 2 gen truetrac some time in year 2020 ha ha
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Hmm maybe they finally got to making ADD Truetrac, too bad most of 1 gen's got crushed
Great timing, so we should get 2 gen truetrac some time in year 2020 ha ha
Yep, two days after the 4th gens come out I reckon......
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