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Old 07-17-2008, 10:48 AM   #1
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I need help disabling my driving performance monitor

I don't know if anyone has ever heard of it.

It is called a Car Chip Pro. It is a chip that plugs into your ecu under the dash to monitor how fast you are going and stuff

How do I disable it?

Anything besides unplug it.

I'm 17. Take a guess why it is in there!!!!!!
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Old 07-17-2008, 01:38 PM   #3
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TEEN DRIVER ALERT!

The only way to disable it is to unplug it....

But instead of trying to figure out how to disable it or get around it, drive like you have some sense and then you won't have to worry about....and you'll live longer.
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LOL.

I demand to know why this is on your vehicle. Mommy and Daddy?
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It has been placed randomly on '07 and up Tacomas. The "little black box" records in a loop, for an undisclosed amount of time, speed, steering input, brake input, throttle position, etc. The NHTSA wants to have them in ALL vehicles by 2010. I havent looked into disabling mine........YET.
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It has been placed randomly on '07 and up Tacomas. The "little black box" records in a loop, for an undisclosed amount of time, speed, steering input, brake input, throttle position, etc. The NHTSA wants to have them in ALL vehicles by 2010. I havent looked into disabling mine........YET.

wait....what? This is the first I've heard of that! Do you have a link or something with more info? I'm glad I have a 06 so they weren't doing that yet, but we plan on replacing my Corolla in a year or two....
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how do you know if this is in your truck
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It has been placed randomly on '07 and up Tacomas. The "little black box" records in a loop, for an undisclosed amount of time, speed, steering input, brake input, throttle position, etc. The NHTSA wants to have them in ALL vehicles by 2010. I havent looked into disabling mine........YET.
And they monitor this...how?

If they're monitoring this 'as I drive' from satellite reception or something - talk about an invasion of privacy somewhat.
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is this to be found on 2008's? And can my insurance company view this?
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And they monitor this...how?

If they're monitoring this 'as I drive' from satellite reception or something - talk about an invasion of privacy somewhat.
I'm guessing it has a little hard drive that records info for a certain amount of time and dumps it when its full or something.

Either way, the entire idea of this makes me mad as hell
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It has been placed randomly on '07 and up Tacomas. The "little black box" records in a loop, for an undisclosed amount of time, speed, steering input, brake input, throttle position, etc. The NHTSA wants to have them in ALL vehicles by 2010. I havent looked into disabling mine........YET.
This would be news to me I would like to hear more about this please go on.
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And they monitor this...how?

If they're monitoring this 'as I drive' from satellite reception or something - talk about an invasion of privacy somewhat.

Could just be like your ECU storing check engine light codes. I've heard about them wanting to do something like this to be able to find out what was going on, say, 30 seconds or so before an accident (hit the gas instead of brakes, traveling 55mph in a 30 zone, seat belts unbuckled, etc) Privacy advocates have been in an uproar over it. Sure, it could prove you tried to avoid an accident, but it could also prove reckless driving. Or just revealing your driving history/style is enough to upset people.
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Old 07-17-2008, 05:00 PM   #15
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wait....what? This is the first I've heard of that! Do you have a link or something with more info? I'm glad I have a 06 so they weren't doing that yet, but we plan on replacing my Corolla in a year or two....
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And they monitor this...how?

If they're monitoring this 'as I drive' from satellite reception or something - talk about an invasion of privacy somewhat.
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This would be news to me I would like to hear more about this please go on.
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Could just be like your ECU storing check engine light codes. I've heard about them wanting to do something like this to be able to find out what was going on, say, 30 seconds or so before an accident (hit the gas instead of brakes, traveling 55mph in a 30 zone, seat belts unbuckled, etc) Privacy advocates have been in an uproar over it. Sure, it could prove you tried to avoid an accident, but it could also prove reckless driving. Or just revealing your driving history/style is enough to upset people.
My Wifes Honda Accord (2006) has one installed, as does my Tacoma. Her Accoord came with a pahmplet about it. We threw it out. Evidently, there is some kind of Flash memory, and it records about 45 sec. in a contiuos loop. I have no other info on it, nor have I looked for it on my truck or her car, so it could be a scare tactic for all I know. BUT, as the OP has found one in his truck, I guess there is some validity to this.
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:06 PM   #16
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Ok. I dug up some info:
http://www.harristechnical.com/cdr.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/in...blackbox_x.htm
http://autos.aol.com/article/general...16150109990001
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:07 PM   #17
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Looks like ALL vehicles manufactured as of 2008 have these things.
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Thanks for the info chris I found a thread already on here about about EDR event data recorder.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/tec...black-box.html

Also some interesting info from priuschat.com
This mod states his words
11-21-2007,
The airbag sensor assembly monitors and control certain aspects of the vehicle. These computers assist in driving and maintaining optimal vehicle performance. Besides storing data useful for troubleshooting, there is a system to record data in a crash or a near car crash event. This is called the Event Data Recorder (EDR).
The airbag sensor assembly contains the EDR.

In a crash or a near car crash event, this device may record some or all of the following information:
 Engine speed
 Whether the brake pedal was applied or not
 Vehicle speed
 To what extent the accelerator pedal was depressed
 Position of the transmission selector lever
 Whether the driver and front passenger wore seat belts or not
 Driver’s seat position
 SRS airbag deployment data
 SRS airbag system diagnostic data

The information above is intended to be used for the purpose of improving vehicle safety performance.
Unlike general data recorders, the EDR does not record sound data such as conversation between passengers.

Toyota will not disclose the data recorded in an EDR to a third party except when:

 An agreement from the vehicle’s owner (or the leasing company for a leased vehicle) is obtained
 Officially requested by the police or other authorities
 Used as a defense for Toyota in a law suit
 Ordered by the court

However, if necessary Toyota will:
 Use the data for research on Toyota vehicle safety performance
 Disclose the data to a third party for research purposes without disclosing details of the vehicle owner, and
only when it is deemed necessary
 Disclose summarized data cleared of vehicle identification information to a non-Toyota organization for
research purposes
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:54 PM   #19
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So does anyone know, can we unplug this/these from our Tacomas?
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So does anyone know, can we unplug this/these from our Tacomas?
doubtful as its mentioned to be in the airbag sensor

i honestly dont see the "issue" with these being on your vehicle...but maybe i just see the good more than the bad...its going to basically record everything you do right up to and during a collision...could save your butt in court
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