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Old 10-18-2010, 05:11 PM   #1
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Sway Bar Connected Vs. Disconnected With an Interesting Observation

Letís get the bs out of the way. I do not recommend you disconnect your sway bar or completely remove it. There are obvious safety concerns involved with it. More significant, This thread is not a debate and if it becomes one it will be locked immediately. The reason I post this is to share my observations of an experiment I ran.

I was curious what the benefits of a disconnected sway bar over a connected sway bar are. I also wanted to make sure that disconnecting the sway bar couldnít cause mechanical damage(make contact with the suspension etc.).

My experiment consisted of using the hilift to get one side of the truck completely off the ground. My goal was to get the front tire approximately 1Ē off the ground. First I did this with the sway bar connected and then with it disconnected.

Enough with the Chit Chat, here are my observations

Sway bar connected-No jack present


Sway bar connected-Jack lifted passenger front about an Inch off the ground


Sway bar disconnected-Jack lifted passenger front about an Inch off the ground


Sway bar connected-Jack lifted passenger front about an Inch off the ground


Sway bar disconnected-Jack lifted passenger front about an Inch off the ground


Sway bar connected-Jack lifted passenger front about an Inch off the ground


Sway bar disconnected-Jack lifted passenger front about an Inch off the ground



Now the juicy part-I went over to the driver side slider to see if any problems arose with the sway bar disconnected
Sway bar disconnected-Jack on drivers side-lift about 2 inches


Then I go over and check before I continue and discover this
Sway bar disconnected on passenger side-Jack on Drivers side-lift about 2 inches


I didnít think that looked right, so I went over to the jack and pushed it down one more time
Sway bar disconnected on passenger side-Jack on drivers side-lift about 3 inches


Sway bar disconnected on passenger side-Jack on drivers side-lift about 3 inches


On the farther away pics it's easier if you click on it and get a full size image.

To conclude, The disconnecting the sway bar has obvious gains in travel from wheel to wheel but it canít be done. The sway bar simply gets pushed right into the cv. If I continued to lift the drivers side it would have just gone down farther and farther into the cv. Now add this to a spinning shaft and your guaranteed a shredded boot and thereís a good chance youíll destroy the cv entirely considering the force the sway bar can push down.

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So...in other words *remove* it?
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So...in other words *remove* it?
If you don't want to have a sway bar then the only option is to completely remove it. It's either all on or all off. This is also answers the question as to why nobody makes sway bar disconnects for 2nd gen Tacos.
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If you don't want to have a sway bar then the only option is to completely remove it. It's either all on or all off. This is also answers the question as to why nobody makes sway bar disconnects for 2nd gen Tacos.

Right. I mean, I generally wouldn't EVER recommend disconnecting a part and then leave it flopping around on the vehicle.

We needed an experiment to figure this out?
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i thought when u disconected the sway bay you were supposed to remove it?
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Good research, its to bad somone cant make a quick disconect for us. I guess I'll just keep mine on in preping for the kamikaze deer to run out infront of me.
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Right. I mean, I generally wouldn't EVER recommend disconnecting a part and then leave it flopping around on the vehicle.

We needed an experiment to figure this out?
"We" didn't need an experiment at all. I did an experiment because I was curious the what the difference would be side by side and I figured I would share my observations with TW.

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i thought when u disconected the sway bay you were supposed to remove it?
I guess it wasn't such common knowledge for me. I always hear about people wondering why nobody made a quick disconnect for the Taco.
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Great write up, even though I don't have a 2nd gen.
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"We" didn't need an experiment at all. I did an experiment because I was curious the what the difference would be side by side and I figured I would share my observations with TW.



I guess it wasn't such common knowledge for me. I always hear about people wondering why nobody made a quick disconnect for the Taco.
i never understood how the sway bay disconects worked anyhow
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so are you keeping it????
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Good research, its to bad somone cant make a quick disconect for us. I guess I'll just keep mine on in preping for the kamikaze deer to run out infront of me.
I think that's the reason why a quick disconnect wasn't developed. The only way to disconnect it is to remove it as brutalracingguy and Jandrews have made clear.
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i never understood how the sway bay disconects worked anyhow
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so are you keeping it????
A Sway bar disconnect actually removes one side of the sway bar, allowing it to act as if disconnected.
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Great write up, even though I don't have a 2nd gen.
Thank you. I'm not sure how the sway bars are setup on the first gens, but I can tell you that if you disconnect it that it will go up and down a significant distance and contact anything in it's path.

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I always thought that it would disconnect on the spindle. I'm going to look into how other models work.

Yes I'm keeping it. At least until I get firmer suspension because right now it rocks like a sailboat with the extra weight over the front.
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Thank you. I'm not sure how the sway bars are setup on the first gens, but I can tell you that if you disconnect it that it will go up and down a significant distance and contact anything in it's path.



I always thought that it would disconnect on the spindle. I'm going to look into how other models work.

Yes I'm keeping it. At least until I get firmer suspension because right now it rocks like a sailboat with the extra weight over the front.
are you saying you want to remove some of the extra weight up front
id be very willing to meet you to remove that bumper...my winch needs a home
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Here is a Disco'ed sway bar
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Here is a Disco'ed sway bar
do you have any further pics looks like a sweet system...
does it pin in then like lock up??
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are you saying you want to remove some of the extra weight up front
id be very willing to meet you to remove that bumper...my winch needs a home
LOL! NO WAY! I've got some ome components in the mail now

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Here is a Disco'ed sway bar
Thank for posting that. So they completly removed any part that could cause harm.

Upon a google search I discovered that the 4 runners(3rd gen I believe) had the sway bar connected to the lca out of the way of everything

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-ge...isconnect.html
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