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Toyota Oil Filter (Made in Thailand) vs. the competition........

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by chris4x4, Nov 15, 2010.

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  1. Jul 19, 2011 at 5:05 AM
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    I have used Fram for years, used to think they were all the same. After watching the vids I will use the Toyota filters. Looked much better made imo and even cost less than the TG or EG that I had just started upgrading to the last few times. Cant believe there is basically no difference in the TG and EG over the regular Fram! :mad: Great write up btw!
     
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    I was at my local dealer and picked up a YZZG1 oil filter and plug gasket for my 98 4Runner and it was actually made in Japan! Cost w/gasket was about $7.33
     
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    so the toyota filter has over 200 sq ft. So is the toyota filter the best out of all of these filters listed?
     
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    Sure why not? Weren't you ever told that bigger is better? :D

    But the Toyota filter is also on the cheaper end of things, and if any problem were to come up because of the filter, I'm sure you could take it up with Toyota.

    I would rather run a Toyota filter and change it twice as often (just the filter, I run the oil for at least 10k) than run a Mobil 1 or K&N filter. In the former case, you would even still come out ahead money-wise.
     
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  7. Aug 31, 2011 at 3:05 PM
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    sq INCHES.....If it was square feet, it would be the size of a small trash can.
     
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    200sqft is a pretty god damned big trash can
     
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  9. Sep 10, 2011 at 12:09 PM
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    Interesting results with the Royal Purple. I wonder if the synthetic media is more efficient, as it seems both Amsoil and RP feel they only need 1/4th of the media found in OEM ToMoCo filters...
     
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  10. Sep 10, 2011 at 12:22 PM
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    Thing is.....the more media, the more capacity to hold contamination.
     
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    In theory. I'm not a materials engineer, so I don't know the relative ability to hold stuff of the two materials to one another.

    Cubic inches are not created equal when it comes to absorbency...as an example, 3 cubic inches of sponge will hold more water than 3 cubic inches of polyester, because polyester is hydrophobic.

    Additionally, the smaller surface area may be compensated for by thicker media itself...notice any difference in the thickness? Although thicker media would likely serve as an inhibitor to flow if the filter became extremely contaminated.

    Mind you, I'm not saying the RP filter *does* compensate in these ways, I'm just saying square inches of media is but one metric in a complex set of variables.
     
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  12. Sep 10, 2011 at 1:23 PM
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    I agree. And one thing I seem to have left out (because I didnt think of it until now) is the thickness of the relative media types. All were pretty close in thickness, however. The RP WAS a very little bit thicker than the others, and the OEM stuff was much more dense than any of the others (more tightly "woven" for lack of better words). Still.....The 75% less media sq./in., IMHO, and given how thick the RP stuff is, doesnt seem like a good deal vs. the OEM.
     
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    Just changed the oil in my DD Corolla today...still an OEM filter guy, and I agree they're definitely the best bang for the buck, if not the best filter overall.

    I do love Royal Purple's oil tho :p Run it in the truck and the Go-kart.
     
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    So.................Technically Toyota OEM filter is best? :confused:
     
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    I'd say it's definitely the best value for the money.
     
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    Makes note to use the HP-3001 for the next oil change. I like the nut as well. On the 2.7 engine it is hard to get some of the filter tools up in there for an easy removal. The 1in nut makes it a breeze.
     
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    Great post. Thanks for being so thorough.
     
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    OP- Thank you for being so complete in your search for the best oil filter. Did you happen to keep all of the filters you tested? more specifically, any of the good ones? If so, could you possibly weigh the filter media and give us a comparison between each filters surface area to its mass? I would be interested in comparing the surface area and mass and therefor an approximate density and relate it to the number of pleats in the oil filter. If you could get us this data we would all really appreciate it.
     
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    I have got to start paying attention to the mods and tutorials more often!!! I've been using the K&N this whole time :facepalm:I can't believe this has been up as long as it has and I haven't seen it. Thanks once again Chris for the oustanding information! Going with toyota from now on for sure.
     
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