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Old 03-15-2011, 11:05 PM   #21
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It's kind of sad actually, because what I'd really love to see is an all manual everything again. A true all purpose tinker's truck that's a no nonsense workhorse. But more and more even the most tried and true models are becoming computers on wheels.
That make what you want. The problem is that it is expensive.



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Old 03-16-2011, 11:45 AM   #23
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didn't subaru used to have a "hill hold" on the manual trans?
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:57 AM   #24
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I would never want my truck to have a hill start, I love it when she rolls backwards.
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:05 PM   #25
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I would never want my truck to have a hill start, I love it when she rolls backwards.
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:06 PM   #26
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I think it's funny when people stop at a light and slip the clutch the whole time to keep the car from rolling back. Bye bye clutch.
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:11 PM   #27
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I think it's funny when people stop at a light and slip the clutch the whole time to keep the car from rolling back. Bye bye clutch.
It's even worse when you can hear em giving gas too. In my head i'm cringing
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I see it all the time with people driving Civics...
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I see it all the time with people driving Civics...
I couldn't care less if someone wrecks a civic clutch haha. I watch people locally do it with mustangs and laugh
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Hill assist on the autos, does it apply the brakes for say 2 seconds?
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If you need hill assist on a MT you should have bought an auto. My truck doesn't roll back on hills unless I want it to.
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Hill assist on the autos, does it apply the brakes for say 2 seconds?
I think up to 5 and it is only on the TRD offroad package.
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I'm ok with no hill assist , as well as no atrac, trac and other happy buttons my 08 MT doesnt have. Do wish mine had the E-locker standard though.
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Old 03-18-2011, 11:57 AM   #34
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Hill start assist does not work IMO. It pulses the brakes allowing you to roll back and catching you for a second about 3 times and then it just dies and rolls back due to no engine running. It sucks... thats why its not in the manual.
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We don't have subaru.

I use the hand brake when needed.
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Hill start assist does not work IMO. It pulses the brakes allowing you to roll back and catching you for a second about 3 times and then it just dies and rolls back due to no engine running. It sucks... thats why its not in the manual.
? My engine has never died while HAC has activated. Also if you are too slow to get back on the gas then IDK what to tell you. Just saying HAC works great for me.
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I was on a 45 degree hill. I lstopped and let off the gas to see what would happen. It rolled back a foot and engaged the brakes for 1 second for three times then stalled the engine and I rolled down the hill with no power. Its only useful for stopping your engine from dying when you let off the brake for a split second... it does NOT hold you still if you are on a VERY steep incline. You will move a good foot or so between pulses.
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I never have a problem rolling back and my clutch has 166k on it.
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didn't subaru used to have a "hill hold" on the manual trans?
It's still available across the Subaru line, including the Forester and Impreza and Outback lines, and was updated for 2010 to a full electronic system. It's also in new Jeep Wranglers and the Dodge Challenger SRT8. Variants of the technology have / are being used by (among others) Fiat, BMW, Mercedes, Volkswagen, Saab and Cadillac.

There seem to be several people who don't quite understand how it works. When the clutch is disengaged (pedal to floor), and right after you take your foot off the brake, but before you get to the gas, the brakes continue to hold the vehicle in place for up to 3 seconds more .. or until you let out the clutch to the point of friction and apply gas.

Like I've said .. sure you can slip the clutch to hold the vehicle. And yes you can dick with the ebrake. But given that the brake sensors are already on these trucks for things like VSC and TRAC, this one seems like an easy push button addition to the dash that could help extend the life of the clutch, especially on larger vehicles.

Note I said push button ... sometimes rolling back / rocking is exactly what you want. This is a big problem with the system on the Wranglers ... it's not easy to turn off. The autos of course already have it, which is really interesting because I never use it in an auto .. they don't roll back to begin with. But there are plenty of other times when this would be a nice additional feature to have on a MT.
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