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Old 05-05-2011, 06:00 AM   #21
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Agreed. Too many electronic nannies make people forget how to drive.
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My first truck didn't even have power steering...IIRC it was about 12 turns lock to lock.
Ahh, those were the days
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Old 05-05-2011, 06:25 AM   #22
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And this is why ABS should *NOT* be allowed on any car.... because when it fails, too many people won't know how to react.
I kinda agree. just like I think everyone should first learn to drive a standard before an auto. Gotta learn a driveline to respect it.
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Old 05-05-2011, 06:26 AM   #23
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Let's' not get this man's thread too far off topic.
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Old 05-05-2011, 06:27 AM   #24
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Lol I don't think the OP has responded to anything except the 1st comment
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Old 05-05-2011, 06:32 AM   #25
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And this is why ABS should *NOT* be allowed on any car.... because when it fails, too many people won't know how to react.
Wow, you shouldn't allow ABS (or, presumably, any technological improvement) on a vehicle because IF it fails the driver MIGHT not react well?

What other technological improvements shouldn't we be using? Windshield wipers? Electrical headlamps? Pneumatic tires?
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Old 05-05-2011, 06:39 AM   #26
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Wow, you shouldn't allow ABS (or, presumably, any technological improvement) on a vehicle because IF it fails the driver MIGHT not react well?

What other technological improvements shouldn't we be using? Windshield wipers? Electrical headlamps? Pneumatic tires?
Perhaps NOT allowed is a bit strong. I just think that people should know how to react without the help of the computer. I retract my earlier post.
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Old 05-05-2011, 06:40 AM   #27
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Perhaps NOT allowed is a bit strong. I just think that people should know how to react without the help of the computer. I retract my earlier post.
Tech should be allowed, and people should actually be trained to drive properly, over in Europe, you spend 10 hours with the driving instructor minimum.
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Old 05-05-2011, 06:44 AM   #28
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I used to drive a Civic with no ABS. There was nothing different about driving it.

When did this turn into a waaaa waaaa I don't like ABS thread?
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Old 05-05-2011, 06:52 AM   #29
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I don't see anyone crying in here.
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Old 05-05-2011, 07:51 AM   #30
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IDK. I see complaining of electronics when there is always the option of buying old.
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:06 AM   #31
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If there is a warranty issue it looks like your under the 36k mark but you need to check the IN-SERVICE date because you may have run out of time 3yrs or 36k which ever comes first. Btw DONT DO THAT AGAIN!
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:06 AM   #32
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In the snow ABS sucks. I wish there was a switch to turn it off. Instead its a Fed mandate? WTF .. get the gov't out of my life.
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:12 AM   #33
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In the snow ABS sucks. I wish there was a switch to turn it off.
Agreed
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:45 AM   #34
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If there is a warranty issue it looks like your under the 36k mark but you need to check the IN-SERVICE date because you may have run out of time 3yrs or 36k which ever comes first. Btw DONT DO THAT AGAIN!
Would the warranty cover hooking up the battery backwards?
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:45 AM   #35
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Would the warranty cover hooking up the battery backwards?
it will if you forget to mention what happened
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:49 AM   #36
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Would the warranty cover hooking up the battery backwards?
If they can determine OUTSIDE INFLUENCE then you are screwed. More than likely they will know.
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it will if you forget to mention what happened
One would think that they could tell.
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:57 AM   #38
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One would think that they could tell.
They were able to tell me how many times my VSC had engaged since I had the ECU reflashed , pretty sure they will figure this one out .
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They were able to tell me how many times my VSC had engaged since I had the ECU reflashed , pretty sure they will figure this one out .
Did they mention how many times you used ATRAC?










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Did they mention how many times you used ATRAC?

Sorry, had to
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