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Prerunner hubs and bearings

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by sirschwiegs, Jul 12, 2013.

  1. Jul 12, 2013 at 1:32 PM
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    I need to replace a front bearing on my 06 Pre.
    The problem is that prerunner use the 6 lug hubs, like an an 06 4x4, while regular 2WD use a 5 pattern.
    Do I buy 4x4 hubs and bearing assembly?
    Or 6lug hubs and 2wd bearings?
    Any other thoughts or advice?
    I found these hubs that appear to fit 06 Tac 4x4
    http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Dorman-930-403-Wheel-Hub-/81646615

    Then just press in bearing that are prerunner specific or just go with this preassembled hub assembly and bearing

    http://bluepitbearings.com/2003-2012-Toyota-4Runner-Complete-Front-Hub-Wheel-Bearing.html
     
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    most to all 4x4 parts can be installed on a prerunner, the inverse is however not true.
     
  3. Jul 16, 2013 at 7:12 AM
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    To all prerunner owners listen up: 4x4 hubs will NOT work on prerunners. After a week of research I found that the only way to get replacement HUBs (not bearings) is to order them from Toyota dealerships (not cool) or Andy at blue pit bearings (link above) can custom order and assemble ur hub and bearing assembley. It will arrive ready to install with no pressing needed. Prices around 380 which is still much cheaper than the stealership. A simple bearing replacement is quoted around 500 as well. So if u got a Prerunner and needa hub Andy is your guy.
     
  4. Jul 19, 2013 at 8:43 AM
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    Would like to know where your information was gathered from. I have heard of several 2nd gen 4wd units fitting on a prerunner. Would like to verify. Looking at the link you posted for "bluepit" his add says 4wd, and does NOT say it works with a prerunner/2wd Tacoma. As a matter of fact, it specifically says "4 wheel drive models only"
     
  5. Jul 22, 2013 at 1:10 AM
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    X2 I've rarely heard of 4WD suspension and wheel components not working for 2WD. seems like it would be beneficial to purchase parts meant for more wear and tear.
     
  6. Jul 22, 2013 at 7:32 AM
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    ^^^^^ Exactly! I know that the actual center spindle is not the same, but if you get a complete setup from a 4WD it will bolt up to the suspension spindle just fine. They have the exact same bolt pattern. The only thing that would be different is the 4WD assembly has a center opening for the CV shaft.
     
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    Yep, I was sure of it. OP, you might want to check your supplier. His information appears to be either incorrect, or inaccurate on his information that he received.
     
  9. Jul 22, 2013 at 10:17 AM
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    As long as you can get the prerunner nut and components from Toyota I'm sure you can do it. ..I just couldn't find the parts. You can't just purchase the4x4 hub and attach like a normal 4x4 Tacoma. The mechanic at blue pit bearing ordered all the parts and assembled for me so I simply plug and play.
     
  10. Jul 22, 2013 at 5:34 PM
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    I am unsure of what "nut" you are talking about. Perhaps you have a photo? A basic hub assembly that has been pressed together will bolt right up with the 4 bolts that are for 4 or 2wd hubs.
     
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    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CC4QtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DWOSrVIFdSvc&ei=iO3uUYWWIMLD4APD_YCYBA&usg=AFQjCNEdYSPyU1Gq-pg2PriiSFN41Mzqeg&sig2=JkwthqkgwWkHq5lkk7zwkA&bvm=bv.49641647,d.dmg
    He removes the nut with the drill then installs the new nut with the 4pin wrench. This is only done on prerunner 2wd as far as I know. You can change the bearing with a press just like any other but if u want a complete hub and bearing assembly you need that nut
     
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    Now I see the nut which you are referring to. I just was looking for clarification. I still have seen some 4wd hubs be installed on 2wd prerunners. Perhaps they are not the right part number, but they still will bolt into place. Not the right way to do it obviously, but it will bolt up.
     
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    Yesv the Prerunner are confusing since they are 2WD but sport 4x4 features including 6lug tires. If you can Make it work more power to ya... if you want to play it safe you can paya little more but the bluepitbearing.com guy, Andy, really seemed to know his stuff. His # is on the website feel free to give me a call he seemed like a real honest person...and I received the assembled hub 2 days after ordering it.
     
  14. Jul 24, 2013 at 8:30 AM
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    Not confusing at all actually. I work on both 4wd and Prerunners at my shop. I was simply asking for clarification on which nut you were talking about. No doubt the guy probably knows what he is talking about.
     
  15. Jul 24, 2013 at 1:31 PM
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    I doubt he's got as much 4x4 know how as you :D Bills always on his game!

    but in all honesty I doubt all of this had to be so complicated. I'm almost positive you could have ordered the 4x4 parts with no issues, but then again I'm no expert :eek:
     
  16. Jul 24, 2013 at 8:55 PM
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    I think the biggest issue is with bearing retention. The Prerunner uses that nut on the back to hold the bearing together. Even though it is pressed in, there can be some minor migration of the inner races over time. The 4X4 has the advantage of the CV shaft being bolted in to hold it all together, where the Prerunner does not have that option, so they use a threaded center wheel spindle/hub and a nut on the inside. I can see where ,by a parts seller's position, one could say in fairness that the 4WD and 2WD versions are not compatible. I just haven't heard of anyone who DID use the 4WD setup on a prerunner having a problem later on.
     

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