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Old 05-28-2013, 04:54 PM   #1301
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But like they said also, check on what capacity your laptop will support. XP's limit is 4gb but your computer's limit may be less.

Sometimes, it will be higher than what the manufacturer shows because at the time of manufacture, memory sticks weren't available that would go higher. I have a Dell that stated it's upper limit was 2GB. I put 4GB in and it worked fine (3.5 as stated above).
Evil Monkey speaks troof.

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Old 05-28-2013, 04:56 PM   #1302
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:00 PM   #1303
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ok mine maxes out at 3.5. you guys are awesome. saved me a lot of money and time. neither of which i have much extra of now.
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:12 PM   #1304
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should i just go ahead and replace both sticks since theyre the same age and have been through the same abuses?
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:42 PM   #1305
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should i just go ahead and replace both sticks since theyre the same age and have been through the same abuses?
I would.

How much is matched 1GB sticks of 800mhx right now? $20-30 I think. Silly cheap.
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:44 PM   #1306
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sounds like a plan. sweet.
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Old 05-28-2013, 06:09 PM   #1307
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Actually, no it does not depend. Hardware RAM, like on a dedicated video card, is counted against the 4GB max up front, before the OS gets a crack at it as 'system memory'.

I have tested this a hundred times (no, literally...I build custom gaming rigs for people as a side job), and it is as such, and has been since day 1. Shared RAM is from the same RAM pool as system memory, yes, so if you dedicate 512 MB of 'system RAM' to the 'video card' you'll have half a gig less on the OS tab.

However, I've done this personally: Put 4 GB of RAM on a motherboard, add in a 1GB nVidia 650GTX, install XP32.

The OS shows 3GB of available RAM, no matter what you do it cannot see more.
Guess I never looked at that. Interesting


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should i just go ahead and replace both sticks since theyre the same age and have been through the same abuses?
too bad you didn't need desktop RAM. I'd toss some at your face for the price of shipping and a cheeseburger.
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Old 05-28-2013, 06:53 PM   #1308
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should i just go ahead and replace both sticks since theyre the same age and have been through the same abuses?
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Guess I never looked at that. Interesting
I've actually won cash money from other IT folks at 3 of my last 4 jobs with that bet. Only two jobs back did one guy know this already and had the good sense not to bet me.

Honestly, you have to be a hardcore gamer, a builder of gaming rigs, or an exo-uber-nerdgeek to know that offhand.

(Hint: I'm all three. Scary and/or sad, pick one)
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:39 PM   #1309
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I've actually won cash money from other IT folks at 3 of my last 4 jobs with that bet. Only two jobs back did one guy know this already and had the good sense not to bet me.

Honestly, you have to be a hardcore gamer, a builder of gaming rigs, or an exo-uber-nerdgeek to know that offhand.

(Hint: I'm all three. Scary and/or sad, pick one)
well whatever you want to call yourself im glad i talked to yall. this computers been with me for a while and i didnt want to scrap her.
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:41 PM   #1310
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I'm just happy we could collectively help, mon.
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:46 PM   #1311
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never thought id be getting computer help from a truck forum haha
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:26 PM   #1312
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My laptop came with 1GB RAM, maxed it out at 2GB. But it's from early 2006.
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Old 05-28-2013, 10:08 PM   #1313
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yea mines an 07. but ive got the new one coming in in a week so we'll see how it goes.
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Old 05-29-2013, 04:45 PM   #1314
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I'm just getting into Hyper-V and I'm using it for my dev laptop.

Here's what I've done:
- Created a fixed size VHDX called 'Base OS', 32GB
-Created a VM called 'Base OS', linked it to the VHDX of the same name, and installed Windows 8 and all the basic stuff
-Created a differencing VHDX called OLY-IT-30A, 32GB and used Base OS as a parent
-Created a VM called OLY-IT-30A, linked it to the VHDX of the same name. Installed some additional stuff.

The problem:
I'm now trying to install Visual Studio 2010 SP1 on OLY-IT-30A and the installer says it doesn't have enough space.
I shut down I tried to expand the differencing disk to 60GB. When I boot back up, the VM doesn't recognize the extra space.

What am I doing wrong?
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Old 05-29-2013, 05:06 PM   #1315
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First, find out if the VDI you're running is actually out of space. Now, I don't know what the footprint of Win8 is on a running machine. For comparisons sake, I can 'make' a clean 7 install under 20GB easy. But, for practical intents and purposes, everyday use makes it a lot bigger.

If your original 32GB disk isn't big enough, then the 'child' associated with it may NOT grow if you expand the childs disk image...it could stay reflecting the 'parent' size regardless. I don't have much time on Hyper-V, but look into this, as I know there were a couple similar bugs in older versions of Citrix's virt installs.

Now, that said, I don't know how big 8 needs to be. Personally, I'd rather slam my dick in a car door than run 8 on a desktop, but that's another discussion. 7 (plus normal office, plus normal security hotfixes and SPs, plus Internet Exploder and all its fixes and patches, plus .Net, plus Java, plus...etc etc) and Visual Studio and all ITS fixes and patches? I wouldn't want to try to get that in less than 64GB. To be honest, in a 'first try' like this, I'd start with 100GB disk files until I got my head around how big they grow with 'normal' use.
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Old 05-29-2013, 05:18 PM   #1316
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Sorry, I didn't explain it as thorough as I should. Managed to figure it out, though!

The base VM has Win 8, all patches, Office, and some common software tools. I've got it all installed and set up, it took about 20GB, so the parent drive has 10GB of free space.

On the 'child' VM, I've added Visual Studio 2010 and SQL 2008. It now has 4GB free space (because it thinks it's still only 30GB), which is not enough space for Visual Studio 2010 SP1 to install. I expanded the child disk, but it wasn't showing any extra space.

Just figured out that I needed to open Disk Management in the child VM and expand the disk
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Old 05-29-2013, 05:20 PM   #1317
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hey, baby steps!
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Old 06-18-2013, 05:27 PM   #1318
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I can't believe I didn't discover this before. Also figured out you can squish down the blue connection bar (at least, in Win 8 I can)

http://blog.concurrency.com/infrastr...-ui-at-last-2/
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