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Old 06-23-2012, 12:18 AM   #1
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Pulling out another truck: worst case scenario?

Ok...so we've all pulled out other trucks. Sometimes we're on pavement/gravel/dirt roads/hard packed sand while they're in mud/sand or even down a hill etc. At times all we've ever needed was a soft pull/hard tug/accelerated pop etc...but what I'm wanting to know is say we're also on loose sand or thick mud etc...should I put my truck on 4hi (normal drive, down shift 1,2,3) or 4low etc? Every time I've ever pulled someone out I've always been able to place myself in a pretty position. So I've never really experienced this worst case scenario. Say someone is stuck in middle of a crop field...how do u guys go about it? Or maybe in extremely loose sand. Let me know.
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Don't pull while in reverse..only if you absolutely have to. Pulling in reverse greatly increases the chance of breaking the rear ring and pinion gears ..
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I was in 4 lo, locked and aired down to 17psi trying to pull a taco up a rock wall that was high centered. Dirt was too soft and I couldn't hook...ended up hooking my winch up to another 4runner that was in front of me. we didn't have a second tow strap, I've been told that using a winchline like a tow strap is not advised, so we left the front 4runner in park and as the winch was pulling i was giving my 4runner gas at the same time. that extra bump and having the other truck as an anchor for me was all we needed
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use a snatch strap, not a tow strap.

get a little bit of momentum and the strap will spring and yank them out. This works well in mud or sand.

EDIT: 4lo and air down if needed.
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Ok...so we've all pulled out other trucks. Sometimes we're on pavement/gravel/dirt roads/hard packed sand while they're in mud/sand or even down a hill etc. At times all we've ever needed was a soft pull/hard tug/accelerated pop etc...but what I'm wanting to know is say we're also on loose sand or thick mud etc...should I put my truck on 4hi (normal drive, down shift 1,2,3) or 4low etc? Every time I've ever pulled someone out I've always been able to place myself in a pretty position. So I've never really experienced this worst case scenario. Say someone is stuck in middle of a crop field...how do u guys go about it? Or maybe in extremely loose sand. Let me know.
when your pulling dont shift unless your goin fwd real good. ive found that is better to just play with the gas and leave it in first /4lo its better. watch your revs and keep it steady.
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ok your auto. most of my pulls are on lose beach sand. 4lo. lo gear rear lock if you have it
once you get moving then your good. ive yet to get stuck with my dc trd offroad. i always lock the rear also. and below 3 miles atrac is on automatic so you have equalpower all wheels. impressive trucks we have
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If you're not gonna be able to get another vehicle to help you, don't get yourself stuck.

If he's buried, clear everything you can from in front and under him. 4LO and pull going forward. If winching, never rely on park to hold you. Use your brakes from inside the vehicle and chock your tires if you can. If whatever you're driving on is soft but not hard enough to fall through just idling through it, then you can run back and forth across it to pack it down into a ramp, sometimes. This goes for snow sometimes as well.

With sand you can usually wet it and it firms up.

Airing down helps a lot to not get yourself stuck and to get the other person out. Just don't pop a bead in the mud, no fun.

Oh and if you start digging in, just stop and fill in the holes, don't bury yourself trying to power out.
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ok your auto. most of my pulls are on lose beach sand. 4lo. lo gear rear lock if you have it
once you get moving then your good. ive yet to get stuck with my dc trd offroad. i always lock the rear also. and below 3 miles atrac is on automatic so you have equal-ish power all wheels. impressive trucks we have
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Ok...so we've all pulled out other trucks. Sometimes we're on pavement/gravel/dirt roads/hard packed sand while they're in mud/sand or even down a hill etc. At times all we've ever needed was a soft pull/hard tug/accelerated pop etc...but what I'm wanting to know is say we're also on loose sand or thick mud etc...should I put my truck on 4hi (normal drive, down shift 1,2,3) or 4low etc? Every time I've ever pulled someone out I've always been able to place myself in a pretty position. So I've never really experienced this worst case scenario. Say someone is stuck in middle of a crop field...how do u guys go about it? Or maybe in extremely loose sand. Let me know.
Add a set of maxtraxx to your gear might not even have to strap on :}
http://www.winchline.com/maxtrax.html my opinon why risk breaking your equip,truck etc or as was suggested burying yourself if you don't have to.



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Add a set of maxtraxx to your gear might not even have to strap on :}
http://www.winchline.com/maxtrax.html my opinon why risk breaking your equip,truck etc or as was suggested burying yourself if you don't have to.



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l my opinon why risk breaking your equip,truck etc or as was suggested burying yourself if you don't have to.



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golden rule. id want some one to help me and not charge 50 to 100 for a pull. so i do it and smile and if they can pay then they will offer if not my karma meter goes up; any way you look at it i win
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golden rule. id want some one to help me and not charge 50 to 100 for a pull. so i do it and smile and if they can pay then they will offer if not my karma meter goes up; any way you look at it i win
Oh I would help the first thing I would try though is the maxtraxx and a little shoveling. I am not a off road expert in any field but have a fair bit of time in a hummer in the sand and regular trucks in the snow. Unfortunately I have seen first hand what happens when the stuck person guns it to help get out of the hole and runs right into the back of the person HELPING :{ Though most of the time it was in snow and ice two or three times on sand. So if I can just traxx them out no risk and my karma is still intact :} http://www.expeditionportal.com/reso...dder-test.html

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golden rule. id want some one to help me and not charge 50 to 100 for a pull. so i do it and smile and if they can pay then they will offer if not my karma meter goes up; any way you look at it i win
ive never accepted money for pulls or yanks or yanks..it's how i keep the trail karma flowing ..and, that's just normal trail courtesy to help others out anyways
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Oh I would help the first thing I would try though is the maxtraxx and a little shoveling. I am not a off road expert in any field but have a fair bit of time in a hummer in the sand and regular trucks in the snow. Unfortunately I have seen first hand what happens when the stuck person guns it to help get out of the hole and runs right into the back of the person HELPING :{ Though most of the time it was in snow and ice two or three times on sand. So if I can just traxx them out no risk and my karma is still intact :} http://www.expeditionportal.com/reso...dder-test.html

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ive never accepted money for pulls or yanks or yanks..it's how i keep the trail karma flowing ..and, that's just normal trail courtesy to help others out anyways
on the beaches here there are tow vultures that wait at the soft spots. thats how they make their bread i guess. if the stuck beach tourist calls a tow truck to get them out there looking at a 120 to 200 dollar pull. i would except money if offered. because who am i to not allow the other person give blessings to hum they choice. yeah having good karma is better than the alternative.
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I've got a set of fiberglass waffle boards, same concept as the max trax. Smittybilt makes a cheaper set FWIW.

They work great though, a lot easier on the trucks and takes the risk out of it too.
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You guys put it in 1st when in 4lo, or just in drive?
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You guys put it in 1st when in 4lo, or just in drive?
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