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Old 06-16-2014, 06:29 PM   #21
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I'm not buying the assertion that wheels are just as likely to break off while in motion as a wheel spacer

Well then you would be incorrect
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Old 06-16-2014, 06:31 PM   #22
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Towing and wheel spacers - any issues?

Well say what you want but it's not a secret cast aluminum isn't as strong as billet. I learned that when screwing around with paintball crap years ago.

I got my spacers for cosmetic at this point. Put my tires out exactly where I wanted. I also got them for future plans of lift and bigger tires one day.

I personally don't see the difference between the spacers and wheels with different offset, either way the tires are farther out than designed. I know it hasn't been brought up yet but that's going to be shortly...
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I'm not buying the assertion that wheels are just as likely to break off while in motion as a wheel spacer
x2. I understand wheel studs are more prone to breaking off due to improper applied torque but with spacers, you've just doubled the chance for failure. There's an added failure point. Before you just had 6 wheel studs that need to be properly and evenly torqued per wheel, with spacers you have 12. All things being equal, that's still double the chance of failure.
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Towing and wheel spacers - any issues?

How? Using an impact or torque wrench? I used to work installing tires and all I will say about that and the dipshits I worked with is there is a reason I do my own work...
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x2. I understand wheel studs are more prone to breaking off due to improper applied torque but with spacers, you've just doubled the chance for failure. There's an added failure point. Before you just had 6 wheel studs that need to be properly and evenly torqued per wheel, with spacers you have 12. All things being equal, that's still double the chance of failure.






Sorry Mike,,, I don't buy it.....thats like telling me my 10 wheel tractor attached to my tri-axle trailer now has more chance to loose a wheel compared to an 18 wheeler..... TORQUE IS TORQUE should not matter on number of matching surfaces unless someone gets lazy or should not be "touching" things they know NOTHING about...
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Sorry Mike,,, I don't buy it.....thats like telling me my 10 wheel tractor attached to my tri-axle trailer now has more chance to loose a wheel compared to an 18 wheeler..... TORQUE IS TORQUE should not matter on number of matching surfaces unless someone gets lazy or should not be "touching" things they know NOTHING about...
Not quite the same. Bolts can fail for multiple reasons, case in point is Monkeyproof who had his studs fail due to fatigue from constantly changing wheels around. With wheel spacers, you don't have 12 lugs all holding on one wheel, you have 6 studs holding in 6 more and 2 planes of potential failure (between the hub and the spacer and between the spacer and the wheel). Whether you buy it or not, there is more opportunity for failure with wheel spacers than without.
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x2. I understand wheel studs are more prone to breaking off due to improper applied torque but with spacers, you've just doubled the chance for failure. There's an added failure point. Before you just had 6 wheel studs that need to be properly and evenly torqued per wheel, with spacers you have 12. All things being equal, that's still double the chance of failure.
Agreed that the chances are more likely but from improper install rather than the spacers themselves. It just adds 24 more opportunities for something to fail. It only makes sense that if "something" can break and you double that "thing"... It doubles the chances of that "thing" breaking...
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with the idea of the lugs fatiguing the spacers aren't being taken off and put back on repeatedly. also taking an exception and quoting it as the norm doesn't seem right. the two examples of why its bad sounds like one was over torqued and the other one was a guy that liked different wheels a lot... those are exceptions. how about the rest of the guys that say they are fine and had no issues that rotate tires at normal intervals only and torque them correctly?
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I don't buy it
Yeah, but you're in Canada, the ice will hold your wheels on year round
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Agreed that the chances are more likely but from improper install rather than the spacers themselves. It just adds 24 more opportunities for something to fail. It only makes sense that if "something" can break and you double that "thing"... It doubles the chances of that "thing" breaking...
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with the idea of the lugs fatiguing the spacers aren't being taken off and put back on repeatedly. also taking an exception and quoting it as the norm doesn't seem right. the two examples of why its bad sounds like one was over torqued and the other one was a guy that liked different wheels a lot... those are exceptions. how about the rest of the guys that say they are fine and had no issues that rotate tires at normal intervals only and torque them correctly?
No where did I exaggerate and say that an outlying case was the norm. I simply said it introduces more points for potential failure. There are obviously lots of people who run them without issue and I would 100% agree that they can be run without issue. That being said, I wouldn't put them on my vehicle and I've stated one of my reasons. The other is I don't want the added stress they put on wheel bearings or other suspension parts.
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Yeah, but you're in Canada, the ice will hold your wheels on year round

at least I own a Tacoma

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