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Old 09-27-2013, 06:12 AM   #781
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Unless I missed it, what are the name brand of the mirrors and do you have ordering information?
Really appreciate all your other input!

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http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...w-mirror/21154

That is the mirrors, there was a link that still worked for me at the top of the thread, though after 6 years of use they pissed me off for the last time last weekend. (over time the rubber pads deteriorate and the mirrors shift while in transit)

I am now a proponent of the dodge style towing mirrors made to fit the tacoma.

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/gro...g-mirrors.html

Prices are listed in both links so if price is the concern you can make your decision based on that information as well.
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Max towing weight

I am looking at a Lance 2185 with a dry weight of 3850 and look to load no more than 5000 lbs. I have a 2012 double cab wiht factory towing pkg. Any experinece with the the tacoma with this much weight?
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I am looking at a Lance 2185 with a dry weight of 3850 and look to load no more than 5000 lbs. I have a 2012 double cab wiht factory towing pkg. Any experinece with the the tacoma with this much weight?
You should fine, the biggest factor is your towing experience. Having towed with a 4.0 DC w/tow package I think the max capacity probably should be no more than 5500 rather than 6500. Over 6000 lbs the truck just gets bullied by the trailer in stops and turns, stiffer suspension would help.
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thanks

I have a lot of experience towing, just not with a Tacoma and a heavier trailer, just looking for any examples of the Tacoma getting dogged by a heavier load. Thanks for the comment
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You should fine, the biggest factor is your towing experience. Having towed with a 4.0 DC w/tow package I think the max capacity probably should be no more than 5500 rather than 6500. Over 6000 lbs the truck just gets bullied by the trailer in stops and turns, stiffer suspension would help.

Stiffer suspension is definitely recommended! If the load is balanced and the trailer has brakes, it's not too bad hauling 6500+, but the ass end still sags.

I have rebuilt springs, and had 800lbs of pellets in the back after the rebuild and the rear was level. Wish I had the chance to try towing a load again to see how it handles now! lol
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Old 09-29-2013, 05:27 PM   #786
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I have a lot of experience towing, just not with a Tacoma and a heavier trailer, just looking for any examples of the Tacoma getting dogged by a heavier load. Thanks for the comment
I tow my '87 4Runner on a regular basis with my 2006 DC PreRunner. I have only had two situations where the trailer actually started pushing the truck around. One was trying to move from a stop on a very steep incline and the other was going up a moderate incline on a dirt road. Both times were more so weight/traction issues. I'm planning on getting a locker for my PreRunner to resolve this issue.

If you intend to tow heavy loads the two necessary upgrades IMO are Firestone Air Bags and trailer brakes.
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Old 09-29-2013, 06:45 PM   #787
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If you intend to tow heavy loads the two necessary upgrades IMO are Firestone Air Bags and trailer brakes.
This is my setup as well. Definitely recommend the Firestones and a brake controller is must. If you have an AAL as well, it definitely helps too. I've got ICON 3 Leafs in the back as well.

I've towed around 6K lbs with no issues. More power would be nice though. My next modification is going to be to regear to 4.56's or 4.88's.
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I forgot to mention that I did upgrade to the TSB leafs.
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Old 09-30-2013, 09:21 AM   #789
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http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...w-mirror/21154

That is the mirrors, there was a link that still worked for me at the top of the thread, though after 6 years of use they pissed me off for the last time last weekend. (over time the rubber pads deteriorate and the mirrors shift while in transit)

I am now a proponent of the dodge style towing mirrors made to fit the tacoma.

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/gro...g-mirrors.html

Prices are listed in both links so if price is the concern you can make your decision based on that information as well.
Yes! Go with the ProEFX towing mirrors. I had those exact strap ons from Camping World. They were horrible. Mirror is tiny, they shake, they are a pain to get on and off, nothing good to say about them. The ProEFX mirrors are great. Only negative that I have about them is that they limit your view out the side windows. You just have to be careful at intersections where the roads don't meet at 90 degrees etc but that is pretty easy to get used to.
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Old 10-13-2013, 04:16 PM   #790
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Charging Trailer "House Battery" During Towing

Maybe one of you has an answer for this:

I'm towing a pup (tent trailer) with a 12 v Optima Blue AGM "house" battery and my '06 Tacoma has a traditional flooded cell (in other words, ordinary) battery.

When the Tacoma is connected to the trailer the 12 v house lights are brighter BUT I've noticed the Tacoma isn't charging the Optima AGM trailer battery for some reason. (The converter on the trailer is dying so it doesn't charge the battery either. I have a bench charger for the battery. According to the bench charger, the trailer battery comes home at only 70-80% charge.)

Is it because:

1. I've wired the pigtail incorrectely
2. The Tacoma's computer can't simultaneously charge two different types
of batteries at the same time (AGM batteries have a unique charging
algorithm).
3. Too much impedance in the 10 gauge 8' pigtail?
4. Other reason?

I'm using the 7 pin factory towing coupling with a new pigtail. There are no sophisticated electronics at work in the trailer. Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks, Michael
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Old 10-14-2013, 02:28 PM   #791
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I might of overlooked this, and im sorry if i did. But does a 2012 Tacoma TRD Off road edition have a button you press when you are towing. Or is it just a automatic thing.
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Wow, Thanks Adam for the low down. You're from NJ, I am in Colorado where we have 6% grades up to 12,000 ft. on some passes. I will continue to search what should be an acceptable trailer wet weight for a Taco V6 4x4 TRD with tow pkg. on these passes. Any one using a super charger?
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Trailer Weight

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I would think that you would be okay in Overdrive as long as you aren't pulling any big hills really fast.

You can take your trailer to a transfer station (Dump site, recycle center, etc...), and they will weigh it for you for a small fee. The other option is to go to a truck stop that is slow, but because they weigh much heavier loads it won't be as accurate (if it registers at all).

Cheers!
Google CAT Scales in your area. I think it is about $9 pulse $2 for a reweight (at the same time)
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Wow, Thanks Adam for the low down. You're from NJ, I am in Colorado where we have 6% grades up to 12,000 ft. on some passes. I will continue to search what should be an acceptable trailer wet weight for a Taco V6 4x4 TRD with tow pkg. on these passes. Any one using a super charger?
Best regards,
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Bob,

FYI, I just got my new 2013 Taco (V6-4X4-Tow Pkg-TRD off road pkg). I plan to tow a 24 ft. Camplite, 3500# dry, approx 4500# packed.

We just spent a month in glorious Colorado towing out RPOD (3500# packed) with a 2010 4X4 Honda Pilot (3.5L V6, 4500# tow rating). The test was to see if the Honda could pull the 3500# trailer over Red Mountain and Wolf Creek passes. It did fine. Not fast, but it was adequate for the winding road conditions. Transmission temperature remained below 235 degrees so no problem. The conclusion was the Taco 4.0L 4X4 will pull the heavier trailer in CO just fine.

So I'm getting the TRD supercharger just to be sure! That should be a screamer, particularly at altitude. I will try the new rig in CO next year or the year after. I lived north of Colorado Springs for 20 years and really miss CO. Home is where the mountains are!

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Question for you towers: I plan on towing a Coleman Pop-up with my 2013 DC.

The trailer weighs around 2000lbs empty, and an extra couple hundred for gear/propane/etc. For argument's sake, we'll say we max out the trailers GVWR at 3000lbs. The truck itself will be loaded with, call it 1500lbs of passengers and bicycles. So we're looking at 4500lbs being hauled all said and done.

Should I be considering airbags and weight distribution hitches? One or the other? Both? My experience with towing this was a (probably overloaded) Forester that only ever hauled this setup in the flatness of Kansas and a 302 V8 Bronco which hardly even noticed the trailer was attached.

My truck has the tow package and I'll be getting a trailer brake controller for sure before we start using it. It also has the Sport package, if that makes any difference (I seem to remember Sport springs being stiffer than the OR ones).
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Question for you towers: I plan on towing a Coleman Pop-up with my 2013 DC.

The trailer weighs around 2000lbs empty, and an extra couple hundred for gear/propane/etc. For argument's sake, we'll say we max out the trailers GVWR at 3000lbs. The truck itself will be loaded with, call it 1500lbs of passengers and bicycles. So we're looking at 4500lbs being hauled all said and done.

Should I be considering airbags and weight distribution hitches? One or the other? Both? My experience with towing this was a (probably overloaded) Forester that only ever hauled this setup in the flatness of Kansas and a 302 V8 Bronco which hardly even noticed the trailer was attached.

My truck has the tow package and I'll be getting a trailer brake controller for sure before we start using it. It also has the Sport package, if that makes any difference (I seem to remember Sport springs being stiffer than the OR ones).
The rear leafs suck. You'll want to do something about them regardless. Airbags, new leafs, rebuilt leafs designed to hold the weight, or maybe a WD hitch.

Every time I towed the nose was in the air even with a 3" AAL lift. I had a local company rebuild my leafs and with the arch they put in I can load 800lbs in the bed and it sits level.
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Airbags. I have them and I towed about 4k cross country. Did really good.
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I have oases my taco pretty damn heavy when I moved.
I went on a weight scale and put each axle on the plate

1.3t front weight
2.9t rear weight
3.6t trailer weight.

I had stock gears w 33s and 6 speed and ap exp leaf pack
Pulling wasn't a problem but over 90 wasn't very stable w any wind
Stopping was a major pita, I'd say this was the biggest limitation.

Some of the weight I had in my truck bed( 12 66# batteries ) amongst other things.
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locate factory brake controller harness in 2014 Dbl Cab,

New owner of '14 Dbl Cab, v-6, tow pkg. Can't find factory brake controller harness. looked driver side kick panel both above it and behind it. Even had the Toyota service rep at the local dealer look for me since I thought it must be "obvious" but I am just missing. Any help/suggestions?
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