Another small truck design please

foxxtrot · 03-26-2008, 07:40 PM

I understand large truck design for farms, construction, etc...but do you ever think we could see another smaller design like the 1995 - 2000 Tacoma or even the 2001 - 2004 Tacoma??? I will never need a big truck, gas is crazy expensive and will continue to go up. I need a truck for fishing, light off roading, and daily driver that looks good with the ability to fill up twice a month. Big trucks don't have a place in my heart or pocket book. So, anyone from Toyota listening...please design a small cool looking truck that works for the average joe out there. Or bring back the old model Tacos.

Roland · 03-27-2008, 02:54 AM

My 1991 was a perfect size for what I need a truck for 99.999% of the time. I'd still be driving it if it had had AC. The now 17 year old 22RE engine is getting 27-28 MPG. I bet a modern version could do better.

Toy4Life · 03-27-2008, 03:48 PM

I am content with my 02, no need for anything bigger. Unfortunately, the only alternative is the A-BAT

350TacoZilla · 03-27-2008, 05:48 PM

I agree totally I liked the looks of the new tacoma in the magazines..then saw one in real life and was like....thats the same size as the tundras (1st gen tundra) nope not buying one of those lol ... I have had 79,81,82,89,95.5,97,99,96 toyotas lol I really liked the 89's size but not the torsion bar suspension had to adjust it like every year to keep alignment correct

utixrunner · 03-27-2008, 05:54 PM

if they made a modern "mini" I would be all over that

350TacoZilla · 03-28-2008, 07:05 PM

heres what I would have liked.... tacoma stayed same size just re-designed maybe....tundra stayed same size (midsized) and the new truck (07-up tundra) be called something new ... I really really love toyota trucks...but the 05-up tacomas havent grown on me in the 3+ years they have been around And i dont think they ever will

tacotoe · 03-28-2008, 07:35 PM

Kind of what Suzuki (my bad sorry) unveiled at the auto show? Except make it a Toyota w/ solid front axle, fuel efficient (25 miles on a thimble of fuel), no power windows, and make it affordable under 15 grand.

lsocoee · 03-28-2008, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 350TacoZilla

heres what I would have liked.... tacoma stayed same size just re-designed maybe....tundra stayed same size (midsized) and the new truck (07-up tundra) be called something new ... I really really love toyota trucks...but the 05-up tacomas havent grown on me in the 3+ years they have been around And i dont think they ever will

I like that idea. Add to it, make the old style tundra not so effin' ugly. Those things look like Gonzo's nose.

4x4x4trd · 03-28-2008, 08:10 PM

Have a chance to buy my '89 Truck (pre Tacoma) back that I sold in '99. It now has 169,000 miles on it but still pretty clean with a new rear bumper, class III hitch, tires, and clutch. He says it needs a battery. The seats have had covers on them and are in great shape. Everything still works as far as stereo, cruise, ect. Toyota rebuilt the top end on the motor for free right before I sold it at 92,000 miles because of a recall issue. I'm tossing it over as a nice ATV runs $7,000 these days. This would still be a great river rat for $3,200.

lawnrevenge · 03-28-2008, 09:47 PM

The Suzuki Equator will be built in the Nissan plant on Frontier frames. They will be just as big as the current Tacoma. What I like is the Suzuki x-head concept. It's really ugly, but the whole bed design is impressive.

tacotoe · 03-29-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lawnrevenge

The Suzuki Equator will be built in the Nissan plant on Frontier frames. They will be just as big as the current Tacoma. What I like is the Suzuki x-head concept. It's really ugly, but the whole bed design is impressive.

Thats the thing I was talking about. Not just ugly, but fugly.

lawnrevenge · 03-29-2008, 02:50 PM

for those who want to see what we mean by ugly. It reminds me of my old tonka trucks.

foxxtrot · 03-29-2008, 03:44 PM

http://www.autoobserver.com/2008/02/small-trucks-ef.html?cid=100663144#comment-100663144

Here is a good article as well.

tacotoe · 03-29-2008, 04:50 PM

I liked the article, and I agree. Around my neck o the woods you see many people driving a huge vehicle,Dodge,Chevy, Ford 1 Tons and I know only a small percentage use them to haul anything that heavy, and then some just rarely at that.How often do you see a Ford Excursion chock full of people ? I rarely ever do. To each is own though, I`m ok with it, just don`t understand it.Maybe it has something to do with a macho image? I seen this huge Chevy the other day 6" lift 35" tires (beautifull truck) and he had sum a them trucknutz too.He hopped down outta there and I think the guy was 4`6" tall at best, I mean like Chuck Norris size. WTF

350TacoZilla · 03-29-2008, 05:41 PM

sign me up for one of those suzuki's lol ... I have always had samurais that thing is cool..like a mini semi

lawnrevenge · 03-30-2008, 12:08 AM

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sign me up for one of those suzuki's lol ... I have always had samurais that thing is cool..like a mini semi

If they made it look better, and put on a normal tailgate, I'd consider it for my next truck. But by then Toyota will have an improved tacoma that might have a better bed design (I love my composite bed, it's part of why I bought it) more storage is always a better thing, unless it's the trunk in a honda ridgeline. Only useable when you don't have a full load.

concrete jedi · 03-30-2008, 08:25 AM

With the cost of new vehicle ALWAYS going up, maybe it would be prudent to find a nice 1st generation and pour some money into it and really get what you want, and I bet you would be 10,000 less than any new truck. I saw a company out in California that built FJ series trucks, looked stout, maybe someone does that for Tacomas.

lawnrevenge · 03-30-2008, 08:37 AM

If I ever do build my perfect offroad vehicle it will be an awd VW Thing. I don't do crazy stuff offroad and the approach angles on those are great, they're small, lightweight, and in sand the lighter front end is a great bonus.
As far as trucks. I drive around 30k miles a year, so by the time my taco is 7 years old I'll be getting a new vehicle truck. And in 2015 I bet there will be some awesome truck designs, maybe a diesel-hybrid tacoma, or even an electric one. Or maybe all the global warming freaks will have given up and they'll just have normal trucks that run on gasoline or diesel, or both like a unimog.

concrete jedi · 03-30-2008, 08:48 AM

Unimogs are so cool, there are a couple driving around here, the school district owns them.

tacotoe · 03-30-2008, 08:57 AM

A VW Thing!!?? That X Head is like a beauty pageant winner compared to those.I vaguely remember those Things, were they awd?

03-26-2008, 07:40 PM	#1
foxxtrot Junior Member Joined: Jan 2008, #4436 Posts: 26	Another small truck design please I understand large truck design for farms, construction, etc...but do you ever think we could see another smaller design like the 1995 - 2000 Tacoma or even the 2001 - 2004 Tacoma??? I will never need a big truck, gas is crazy expensive and will continue to go up. I need a truck for fishing, light off roading, and daily driver that looks good with the ability to fill up twice a month. Big trucks don't have a place in my heart or pocket book. So, anyone from Toyota listening...please design a small cool looking truck that works for the average joe out there. Or bring back the old model Tacos.

03-27-2008, 02:54 AM	#2
Roland My other ride has sails Joined: Jan 2008, #4149 Location: Rhode Island Age: 45 Gender: Male Posts: 2,205 06 Impulse Red I4 2WD Access Cab 2006 Access Cab Manual 2.7 UnderCover Tonneau, Bed mat, Bug Deflector, aFe Pro Dry S, Secondary Air Filter removed, Synthetic 5W-30 oil, Scanguage II with blendmount, WeatherTech floorliners, Toyota seat covers, Installed OEM intermittent wipers, TacomaWorld sticker, Defrost without AC mod, Hidden Hitch	My 1991 was a perfect size for what I need a truck for 99.999% of the time. I'd still be driving it if it had had AC. The now 17 year old 22RE engine is getting 27-28 MPG. I bet a modern version could do better. __________________ "Life's journeys End is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy shit what a ride!"

03-27-2008, 03:48 PM	#3
Toy4Life Nipple Biter Joined: Aug 2007, #2566 Location: Slippery Rock, PA Age: 29 Gender: Male Posts: 3,579 Radiant Red 02 TRD Offroad 2002 Access Cab Automatic 3.4L V6 Toytec 3" Lift(TAC3-PC-1000), 1" diff. drop, Tacoma World sticker, gray wire mod, 15x8 black steel wheels, 33/10.5/15 BFG AT KO's, K&N High Flow air filter, trash can tonneau cover	I am content with my 02, no need for anything bigger. Unfortunately, the only alternative is the A-BAT __________________

03-27-2008, 05:48 PM	#4
350TacoZilla Senior Member Joined: Sep 2007, #2767 Location: Clear Spring MD Posts: 828	I agree totally I liked the looks of the new tacoma in the magazines..then saw one in real life and was like....thats the same size as the tundras (1st gen tundra) nope not buying one of those lol ... I have had 79,81,82,89,95.5,97,99,96 toyotas lol I really liked the 89's size but not the torsion bar suspension had to adjust it like every year to keep alignment correct __________________ Yeah so I hacked up a toyota and put a chevy frame under it, does that make me a bad person? Yeah i guess your right......only one thing left to do......BANG!

03-27-2008, 05:54 PM	#5
utixrunner I <3 Boost Joined: Feb 2008, #4823 Location: Florida Age: 19 Posts: 81 2007 SWB X-Runner 2007 X-Runner Manual 1GR-FE TRD S/C, DT Long Tube Headers, Jardine Catback, TRD Intake, Trd Short shifter, TTC Dual Traction Bars, Sway bar bushing kit, c2c lowering kit, lots of other little things	if they made a modern "mini" I would be all over that __________________ -Chris- 300 rwhp 312 rwtq

03-28-2008, 07:05 PM	#6
350TacoZilla Senior Member Joined: Sep 2007, #2767 Location: Clear Spring MD Posts: 828	heres what I would have liked.... tacoma stayed same size just re-designed maybe....tundra stayed same size (midsized) and the new truck (07-up tundra) be called something new ... I really really love toyota trucks...but the 05-up tacomas havent grown on me in the 3+ years they have been around And i dont think they ever will __________________ Yeah so I hacked up a toyota and put a chevy frame under it, does that make me a bad person? Yeah i guess your right......only one thing left to do......BANG!

03-28-2008, 07:35 PM	#7
tacotoe Pastry Chef Joined: Nov 2007, #3593 Location: Nebraska Posts: 354 `01 DBL Cab TRD 2001 Double Cab Automatic 3.4 Gibson Cat-Back Exhaust	Kind of what Suzuki (my bad sorry) unveiled at the auto show? Except make it a Toyota w/ solid front axle, fuel efficient (25 miles on a thimble of fuel), no power windows, and make it affordable under 15 grand.

03-28-2008, 08:10 PM	#9
4x4x4trd My other ride weighs 200 tons Joined: Jan 2008, #4267 Location: North Texas Age: 51 Posts: 1,007 08 White Access Cab TRD OR, Debadged 2008 Access Cab Automatic 4.0 V6 AFE oil free drop in, Secondary removed, tint, front D-rings, Toyota bed mat, Undercover tonneau, TRD seat covers and floor mats, Pioneer speakers, Westin Platinum bars, Fumoto oil valve, short antena, Nifty Xtreme's, TSB leaf springs, Bilstein 5100's set at .85" in the front	Have a chance to buy my '89 Truck (pre Tacoma) back that I sold in '99. It now has 169,000 miles on it but still pretty clean with a new rear bumper, class III hitch, tires, and clutch. He says it needs a battery. The seats have had covers on them and are in great shape. Everything still works as far as stereo, cruise, ect. Toyota rebuilt the top end on the motor for free right before I sold it at 92,000 miles because of a recall issue. I'm tossing it over as a nice ATV runs $7,000 these days. This would still be a great river rat for $3,200.

03-28-2008, 09:47 PM	#10
lawnrevenge Senior Member Joined: Feb 2008, #4697 Location: Southern Mexifornia Posts: 181 08 regular cab 5-lug, automatic 2008 Regular Cab Automatic	The Suzuki Equator will be built in the Nissan plant on Frontier frames. They will be just as big as the current Tacoma. What I like is the Suzuki x-head concept. It's really ugly, but the whole bed design is impressive.

03-29-2008, 02:50 PM	#12
lawnrevenge Senior Member Joined: Feb 2008, #4697 Location: Southern Mexifornia Posts: 181 08 regular cab 5-lug, automatic 2008 Regular Cab Automatic	for those who want to see what we mean by ugly. It reminds me of my old tonka trucks.

03-29-2008, 03:44 PM	#13
foxxtrot Junior Member Joined: Jan 2008, #4436 Posts: 26	http://www.autoobserver.com/2008/02/small-trucks-ef.html?cid=100663144#comment-100663144 Here is a good article as well.

03-29-2008, 04:50 PM	#14
tacotoe Pastry Chef Joined: Nov 2007, #3593 Location: Nebraska Posts: 354 `01 DBL Cab TRD 2001 Double Cab Automatic 3.4 Gibson Cat-Back Exhaust	I liked the article, and I agree. Around my neck o the woods you see many people driving a huge vehicle,Dodge,Chevy, Ford 1 Tons and I know only a small percentage use them to haul anything that heavy, and then some just rarely at that.How often do you see a Ford Excursion chock full of people ? I rarely ever do. To each is own though, I`m ok with it, just don`t understand it.Maybe it has something to do with a macho image? I seen this huge Chevy the other day 6" lift 35" tires (beautifull truck) and he had sum a them trucknutz too.He hopped down outta there and I think the guy was 4`6" tall at best, I mean like Chuck Norris size. WTF

03-29-2008, 05:41 PM	#15
350TacoZilla Senior Member Joined: Sep 2007, #2767 Location: Clear Spring MD Posts: 828	sign me up for one of those suzuki's lol ... I have always had samurais that thing is cool..like a mini semi __________________ Yeah so I hacked up a toyota and put a chevy frame under it, does that make me a bad person? Yeah i guess your right......only one thing left to do......BANG!

03-30-2008, 08:25 AM	#17
concrete jedi Senior Member Joined: Oct 2007, #3142 Location: Rochester N.Y Age: 43 Posts: 2,679 06 Tacoma 4 door indigo blue 2006 Double Cab Manual V-6 4.0 liter Broken and scratched tailgate, cracked rear tail light lens, coffee stain in driver seat.	With the cost of new vehicle ALWAYS going up, maybe it would be prudent to find a nice 1st generation and pour some money into it and really get what you want, and I bet you would be 10,000 less than any new truck. I saw a company out in California that built FJ series trucks, looked stout, maybe someone does that for Tacomas.

03-30-2008, 08:37 AM	#18
lawnrevenge Senior Member Joined: Feb 2008, #4697 Location: Southern Mexifornia Posts: 181 08 regular cab 5-lug, automatic 2008 Regular Cab Automatic	If I ever do build my perfect offroad vehicle it will be an awd VW Thing. I don't do crazy stuff offroad and the approach angles on those are great, they're small, lightweight, and in sand the lighter front end is a great bonus. As far as trucks. I drive around 30k miles a year, so by the time my taco is 7 years old I'll be getting a new vehicle truck. And in 2015 I bet there will be some awesome truck designs, maybe a diesel-hybrid tacoma, or even an electric one. Or maybe all the global warming freaks will have given up and they'll just have normal trucks that run on gasoline or diesel, or both like a unimog.

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tacotoe Pastry Chef Joined: Nov 2007, #3593 Location: Nebraska Posts: 354 `01 DBL Cab TRD 2001 Double Cab Automatic 3.4 Gibson Cat-Back Exhaust	A VW Thing!!?? That X Head is like a beauty pageant winner compared to those.I vaguely remember those Things, were they awd?