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View Poll Results: Dakar or All-pro EXPO?
OME Dakar leaf springs 32 50.00%
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:02 PM   #101
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..I think it has to come down to, how much overlanding are you REALLY gonna do. You originally asked what a soldier would use in IRAQ...That's called a tank or HUMVEE. None of us here have the time( unless mommy and daddy are loaded and you have no job) to push a vehichle like any marine or any military personel would. I went with the dakars..( on order ) after seeing Expo overlands vids. I will never do as much overlanding as they do, and they swear by that kit. If it works for them, it's good enough for me.
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FWIW, I pulled the upper overload leaf out of my Dakars...but that was to lower the ass. With the D29XL and shackle flip, I was riding way high in the ass. With the D29XL you could probably run without any overloads and be ok.

I also left the two spring brackets on the ends unbolted so the leafs could flex without a pressure point there. But then, I have more rear axle travel than most.

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..I think it has to come down to, how much overlanding are you REALLY gonna do. You originally asked what a soldier would use in IRAQ...That's called a tank or HUMVEE. None of us here have the time( unless mommy and daddy are loaded and you have no job) to push a vehichle like any marine or any military personel would. I went with the dakars..( on order ) after seeing Expo overlands vids. I will never do as much overlanding as they do, and they swear by that kit. If it works for them, it's good enough for me.
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FWIW, I pulled the upper overload leaf out of my Dakars...but that was to lower the ass. With the D29XL and shackle flip, I was riding way high in the ass. With the D29XL you could probably run without any overloads and be ok.

I also left the two spring brackets on the ends unbolted so the leafs could flex without a pressure point there. But then, I have more rear axle travel than most.

Do you remember how high you where sitting?
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:24 PM   #106
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This is his post in my Dakar Measurement thread



OK so, just installed yesterday.

OME Dakar with D29XL add-a-leaf. Between bed mat, hi-lift, spare tire, bed rack, gas tank skid, and rear bumper, the ass end of my truck has about a 200lb. constant load. Hence the add a leaf.

Hub to Fender:
Driver: 25.25in
Passenger: 25in

Ground to Fender (33in tire):
Driver: 41.25in
Passenger: 41in

Bear in mind, this is the day after install. They're going to settle some, but I expect a final height around 40.xx in from the ground, 24.xx in hub to fender.



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Removing the overload took me down about .5", so subtract a half inch from that stuff, yeah.
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I am looking into the same setup. i'm going to be frequently carrying 2 dirt bikes and gear or towing a 23' boat or running a cap. I'm also looking into adding the reservoir billies in the rear. Do you just run the stock length on shock or do you have to get longer ones? I'm probably leaning towards the expos so when i'm loaded i'm not shooting my headlights into the eyes of other people. Any thoughts?
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I am looking into the same setup. i'm going to be frequently carrying 2 dirt bikes and gear or towing a 23' boat or running a cap. I'm also looking into adding the reservoir billies in the rear. Do you just run the stock length on shock or do you have to get longer ones? I'm probably leaning towards the expos so when i'm loaded i'm not shooting my headlights into the eyes of other people. Any thoughts?
You'll probably need longer ones and a taller bump stop to keep the shock from bottoming out. And possibly longer brake lines.
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I am looking into the same setup. i'm going to be frequently carrying 2 dirt bikes and gear or towing a 23' boat or running a cap. I'm also looking into adding the reservoir billies in the rear. Do you just run the stock length on shock or do you have to get longer ones? I'm probably leaning towards the expos so when i'm loaded i'm not shooting my headlights into the eyes of other people. Any thoughts?
This is something that you might need:
Fox 2.0 resis with stem tops...

http://downsouthmotorsports.com/i-81...5-8-shaft.html

$400 for pair, 10" travel, 15.19" to 25.19". Shortest on any brand on DSM. I might just get these...need to measure once I get my leafs in...

After reading I think that I might have to just get shock bumps to help with the uptravel...hah
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Right now is a tie. I guess any choice will do good.
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This is what I got:

Dakar with D29XL











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It gave me about 4" 1/2 of lift.
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is this survey actually tied? wow. I am on the fence between these two options and it appears that the forum is as well.
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I gave me about 4" 1/2 of lift.
What is your rear hub to fender measurement ?
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What is your rear hub to fender measurement ?
aprox RL 25"1/4 & RR 26"
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aprox RL 25"1/4 & RR 26"
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is this survey actually tied? wow. I am on the fence between these two options and it appears that the forum is as well.
I guess it depends for what you want to use your truck, brand preference and money.If I had to chose between Dakar without the D29XL and AllPro Expo, I would had gone with All Pro. In my opinion the Dakar with D29XL gave me more hight and more load capacity. I'm trying to build my self a expedition , bug out vehicle. I think if you want a MT vehicle , maybe the All Pro's will give you more flexibility and smoother ride. Just my opinion.
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Thanks. Looking for the smooth ride as it will be my daily with 95% on road and 5% off-road. I have been researching this forum for a month now and still am not any closer to the final lift considerations. At the end of the day, it seems like it comes down to name preference as both seem great (just like the Toytec Ultimate vs OME packages).
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Thanks. Looking for the smooth ride as it will be my daily with 95% on road and 5% off-road. I have been researching this forum for a month now and still am not any closer to the final lift considerations. At the end of the day, it seems like it comes down to name preference as both seem great (just like the Toytec Ultimate vs OME packages).
The Expos will give you more lift than the Dakar pack on it's own , that is one difference
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