Shudder at 5mph when accelerating.

[Jimirich]

Hope you guys at Toytec are tuned in here.
I just had my Ultimate Lift Kit installed and the truck has a shudder at 5mph when accelerating. 08 double cab 4x4
I used the shims provided and they are oriented tall>>short/back>>front.
The lift was professionally installed. Other than this issue the handling and ride is great. However, I can not yet use my truck for the intended purpose of the lift (offroading) because I feel this shudder is detrimental to the vehicle.
I'll be calling if there is no response in a couple of hours.
Thanks

[jhodge83]

the shudder from the axle/drive agle will not kill u offroad. like i stated in the other post u made, get the carrier bearing drop and install it to further decrease the angle.

[Jimirich]

Originally Posted by jhodge83

the shudder from the axle/drive agle will not kill u offroad. like i stated in the other post u made, get the carrier bearing drop and install it to further decrease the angle.

Now if I have to go and order a carrier drop kit for my "Ultimate Lift Kit" Then I would not truly have purchased the Ultimate Lift Kit, would I? It would seem that I purchased the Incomplete Lift Kit, right? As far as I'm concerned if I have to add a carrier drop kit it should be free ad there is no mention anywhere on the Toytec website to the effect that adding the lift will then cause the truck to shudder, thereby requiring a carrier drop kit.
Thanks for your input I do appreciate a response. I don't mean to be an ass but Its my suspicion the problem lies in the shims. I also believe that there should be no problen at all. The kit should install without any hangups.

[jhodge83]

it is different for each truck....u can do the same lift on identical trucks, but some get it and others dont. i think it has to do w/ the strenght of the leafs...i've gt a set of shims to put on my truck now and if they dont work, i'll be doing a CB drop as well

[luk8272]

The problem lies in the fact that some have these lifts installed without any shims and experience no shudder.

[Jimirich]

Originally Posted by luk8272

The problem lies in the fact that some have these lifts installed without any shims and experience no shudder.

I was told something similar by a coworker; That it could be the shims that are the problem. Apparently, Toytec prefers to have me call them rather than answer my questions through e-mail. I definitely prefer e-mail because there is no question about what may have been said.
I'll call them tomorrow.

[ToyTec Lifts]

Originally Posted by Jimirich

I was told something similar by a coworker; That it could be the shims that are the problem. Apparently, Toytec prefers to have me call them rather than answer my questions through e-mail. I definitely prefer e-mail because there is no question about what may have been said.
I'll call them tomorrow.

Shoot, sorry for the delay in my response... I've been a bit busy on this end..
so here is the deal.. and I want to thank all those that helped me out and beat me to it, but they have stated it well.

Because of all these inconsistencies, it is a struggle to make it perfect for each vehicle. But I will tell you what, you do bring up a great point. Maybe we should put the carrier barrier drop kit as an option, right there on the ordering page. So I will see if I can't get that added for easy ordering.

Like they said, it would first be advisable to install the carrier barrier drop kit and then see what needs to happen next. I know the owner owns a new DC Tacoma and with all the 'stuff' on there, he still has a small shudder.

Hope that helps, out..
But you are welcome to call me, you can reach me at 303.255.4959 x2 or darrick@toyteclifts.com. You spoke of emailing us.

[jhodge83]

i had a shudder after my 3" leaf pack and i installed the toytec shims yesterday and it rides as smoot as stock on the takeoffs. i had to use these on my 07 as well to get rid of the shudder

[luk8272]

I just bit the bullet and spent the little $ extra and bought all the shims and drops. I have not regrets.

[Jimirich]

Originally Posted by ToyTec Lifts

Shoot, sorry for the delay in my response... I've been a bit busy on this end..
so here is the deal.. and I want to thank all those that helped me out and beat me to it, but they have stated it well.

Because of all these inconsistencies, it is a struggle to make it perfect for each vehicle. But I will tell you what, you do bring up a great point. Maybe we should put the carrier barrier drop kit as an option, right there on the ordering page. So I will see if I can't get that added for easy ordering.

Like they said, it would first be advisable to install the carrier barrier drop kit and then see what needs to happen next. I know the owner owns a new DC Tacoma and with all the 'stuff' on there, he still has a small shudder.

Hope that helps, out..
But you are welcome to call me, you can reach me at 303.255.4959 x2 or darrick@toyteclifts.com. You spoke of emailing us.

Thanks for the reply Darrick.
I had the 2.25-2.5 shim and then removed it. It actually made the shudder a little more prolonged. 5mph-10 mph
You guys were kind enough to send me along a 1.5 degree shim (in transit) but I'm wondering now: if removing the shim made it a little worse, should'nt I try a bigger shim, like 3 degree?
Richard

[ToyTec Lifts]

Originally Posted by Jimirich

Thanks for the reply Darrick.
I had the 2.25-2.5 shim and then removed it. It actually made the shudder a little more prolonged. 5mph-10 mph
You guys were kind enough to send me along a 1.5 degree shim (in transit) but I'm wondering now: if removing the shim made it a little worse, should'nt I try a bigger shim, like 3 degree?
Richard

You can try that, we have found little difference between the 2.5 and the 3 degree shims...

[Jimirich]

Originally Posted by ToyTec Lifts

You can try that, we have found little difference between the 2.5 and the 3 degree shims...

Thanks, then I guess no sense in trying 3 degree shims. I'll most likely try the carrier drop kit. However I have a different situation that concerns me more. Got a sound like a bad wheel bearing. Its some kinda thumping at low speeds. Waaahh! I'm not having fun right now.

[ToyTec Lifts]

right. Sorry to hear.
but yes, I would DEFINITELY put the carrier bearing drop kit in for sure!