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Old 10-18-2012, 08:02 AM   #21
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I hate to bust your bubble but that is not a towing test for the ECO. That is a 2009 F-150 with a 5.4L
That being said, the tundra 5.7L will out perform the Ford 5.4L anyday of the week! Both are good motors but built in different ways.
Now the "NEW" F-150 line up (2011+) recieve their brand new motors. 3.7L V6 good for the everyday truck, this was Ford's replacement for the Ranger
5.0L V8 great all around motor
3.5L V6 ecoboost built for heavier duty
6.2L big block V8 built for whatever including sucking down some serious gas

I only post this in response to the sled towing article above.
You can research pickuptrucks.com and see the F-150 was their choice in 2008. http://special-reports.pickuptrucks....verall-ha.html

Since said test were conducted the full size half ton line up has yet to really change except for the Ford engine line up. Let me tell you the new engines are BY FAR GREATER in ever aspec than the engines they replaced.

So, I would consider the F-150 being my number one pick, two would be the Tundra. These two trucks offer great all around performance and they have plently of room in the 4 door config cabs.

Thrid would be the RAM. Nice interior and good power from the hemi but that is about it. Oh, it rides well with it's sweet coil springs in the back.

Fourth would be Chevy/GMC. These trucks are out dated IMO. They still use rear drum brakes! I stoped looking at the truck right there.

I've owned my 2004 5.4L F-150 4X4 since 07. She has never let me down and does everything I want it to do. I get about the same MPG's as my 12' taco. City the taco is way better but HWY I think I can pull better numbers. I really like the fully boxed frame on my Ford as well.


Either way you can't go wrong with Ford or Toyota. That's why they have a patnership. I think you get more bang for your buck with the Ford but to each his/her own.

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And I just noticed this is an old thread.... Sorry but maybe my info will help others.
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Rear drums work just fine. What is this obsession withe rear disc? They wont make you stop like a 911.
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Rear drums work just fine. What is this obsession withe rear disc? They wont make you stop like a 911.
x2... I think people want them cause they look cooler through their 22" rims...
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But the drums will look bad behind my moto bro wheels.
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http://www.edmunds.com/car-technolog...m-vs-disc.html

Disc Brakes
Though disc brakes rely on the same basic principles to slow a vehicle (friction and heat), their design is far superior to that of drum brakes. Instead of housing the major components within a metal drum, disc brakes use a slim rotor and small caliper to halt wheel movement. Within the caliper are two brake pads, one on each side of the rotor, that clamp together when the brake pedal is pressed. Once again, fluid is used to transfer the movement of the brake pedal into the movement of the brake pads.
But unlike drum brakes, which allow heat to build up inside the drum during heavy braking, the rotor used in disc brakes is fully exposed to outside air. This exposure works to constantly cool the rotor, greatly reducing its tendency to overheat or cause fading. Not surprisingly, it was under racing circumstances that the weaknesses of drum brakes and the strengths of disc brakes were first illustrated. Racers with disc brake systems could carry their speed "deeper" into a corner and apply greater braking force at the last possible second without overheating the components. Eventually, as with so many other automotive advances, this technology filtered down to the cars driven by everyday people on public roads

IMO I'm buying a new truck that can tow 8K+ I want to have the latest technology to stop all that weight. For a tacoma, sure it's fine but you are talking about some serious weight being towed by the new half tons.

Any way shape or form disc brakes are far superior to drum brakes hands down and yes disc brakes look better behind any bro wheels.

Also, if it is such and awesome idea to have drums why is it that only GM puts this out dated technology on their half tons? I know.... to save the consumer 300 bucks.
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Used to be a Ford guy all the way, but with their reliability and blowing up issues, they've kinda lost me as a follower. Now I just piddle with my Tacos and my Honda Civic and CRX's.
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Rear drums work just fine. What is this obsession withe rear disc? They wont make you stop like a 911.
Someone banned The Whipper?!?

Anyway, I prefer disc brakes because they're easier to maintain and they do offer a real performance advantage. Since the Tacoma relies on e-trickery for traction aids, I can see that disc brakes may offer a benefit there, too. I don't know of any drawbacks to disc brakes for road vehicles, but there may be some I'm unaware of for off road use. I've recently seen posts stating that a change from stock rear drums to discs may not be a good idea.

As for appearances, I don't care a bit when it comes to something like brakes. If taping Schlitz beer cans to the drums with Mossy Oak tape was proven to make a significant improvement in braking performance, I'd do it right now.
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I had my Tundra parked next to my uncles 2500 gmc and my others uncles F250 it was the same size Side by side! Only difference was the tire size they both have 20in compared to my 17in!
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I will go Toyota any day of the week. Not hating on Ford; good trucks, but I will always be a Toyota guy. I've got to say I have some power under that right foot with the 5.7 Flex Fuel 4x4. Yes, you read right FLEX. I average about 15-16 in the city when I'm not pedal to the floor cause I hate how people driv in the NW. On the highway I average 18-20 with 33 MT. I'll also say that's running premium octane in it.
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The problem with Tundras is the lack of payload. I looked at a Tundra double cab and it only had about 1400 lbs payload. The F250 will have well over 2000 lbs. A F150 with Ecoboost properly equipped can also have over 2000 lbs payload. That may or may not be an issue. It would depend on the tongue weight of the trailers, weight of occupants and other gear being hauled.
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Man I shit you not I moved from the Mississippi Gulf Coast to Tacoma, WA (2800mi) pulled 8500Ibs with no problem and only spent $600 using the premium gas. I for one am proud of my Tundra. Couldnt tell you crap about payload only had bout 750Ibs in the back of it with the hard top on it.
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i would go with the Tundra if it fits his needs. They have good towing capacity, just very low payload. The low payload is an issue with most 1/2 pickups. Rams have even less.
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