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Old 08-20-2010, 09:55 AM   #1
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Anyone got Toyo Open Country A/T's?

Just wondering if anyone has these tires and what you think of them...
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Old 08-20-2010, 09:58 AM   #2
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I had them on my old truck, good tire. Nice and quiet, gripped the ground good in the rain. IMO they dont look aggressive compaired to other A/T's like Dura Trac's or Terra Grappler's (which are the same tire).
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I got them for my 2005, once the noisy Cooper STTs were ready to replace... I liked them and would consider them again... Quiet, good all terrain traction, very good in sand... this photo at Devil's Slide sand dune near Ocotillo Wells... Note the good floatation at street pressure!

They gave me 35,000 miles is all... so the next set I tried was Cooper ATRs (which were just as good, but also wore about the same rate).

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I had them on my old truck, good tire. Nice and quiet, gripped the ground good in the rain. IMO they dont look aggressive compaired to other A/T's like Dura Trac's or Terra Grappler's (which are the same tire).
My experience with them was completely opposite. They were horrible in any sort of wet weather. My rear end broke loose all the time with those tires just normal driving. With my duratracs I haven't been able to break it loose.

They weren't very aggressive for an AT tire and They also didn't last very long.

The only thing positive I have to say is they were quiet.

Love my duratracs though My opinion is buy the duratracs
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Mine have 44,000 miles on them, had them siped and have made two trips to Montana & South Dakota in winter and they were great! Still have oh 5000 to 10,000 miles to go before I need new ones?!
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have you considered General Grabber A/T's or BFG A/T's or even Hankook A/T's? they have have awsome traction in rain/sand compared to the Duratracs. my gf's dad has Duratracs on his Chevy and they suck ass in rain and they do nothing but dig themselves into a hole in the sand.
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have you considered General Grabber A/T's or BFG A/T's or even Hankook A/T's? they have have awsome traction in rain/sand compared to the Duratracs. my gf's dad has Duratracs on his Chevy and they suck ass in rain and they do nothing but dig themselves into a hole in the sand.
The guy is asking about Toyos (Open Country ATs) not Duratracs... and since you brought it up BFG All Terrain T/As (if that is what you meant) are difficult in the sand due to the stiff sidewall and sharp edge.
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The guy is asking about Toyos (Open Country ATs) not Duratracs... and since you brought it up BFG All Terrain T/As (if that is what you meant) are difficult in the sand due to the stiff sidewall and sharp edge.
i was referring to the person above who suggested duratracs... speak for yourself on the bfg's. they have been baja race proven for over 20 consecutive years . every set of bfg a/t's ive ever owned did awsome in the sand. all you gotta do is air down and your set. i go out to dumont and glamis every year and have not gotten stuck once. i recently just bought a set of Hankooks so we'll see how those do in the sand...
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i was referring to the person above who suggested duratracs... speak for yourself on the bfg's. they have been baja race proven for over 20 consecutive years . every set of bfg a/t's ive ever owned did awsome in the sand. all you gotta do is air down and your set. i go out to dumont and glamis every year and have not gotten stuck once. i recently just bought a set of Hankooks so we'll see how those do in the sand...
That's why it is good to use the quote feature like you did responding to me (and me to you, here)... No confusion as to who you are addressing.

BFG All Terrain TAs are NOT used/ made for off road racing, BFG make the Baja T/A for racers... those tires are NOT sold to the public and are not for highway use.

Any tire will work in the sand if you air down enough... The worst tire I owned in sand (Cooper Discoverer STT, 3 ply sidewall) would work in the sand, but not until it was down to 10 psi or lower.

Some tires do better in the sand, and require less air removed (or none with traction control)... those are tires with light tread bite (highway tires), rounded shoulders, softer sidewalls.

I drove a friend's truck with BFG All Terrains in the sand... and they were not as friendly as other tires...

The Rugged Trails our trucks come with are better in the sand, Toyo Open Country ATs and Cooper Discoverer ATRs are good.

I look forward to your Hankook report... Try them at higher pressure than your lowered the All Terrains to... or don't deflate until you need to... then try 5 psi increments (20 psi, 15 psi, 10 psi) .

I drive the sand near Ocotillo Wells without deflating at all (TRAC), and have driven the beach south of San Felipe at full pressure in the winter,without a load in the truck. In the summer, with a load, I had to deflate... Baja gulf beach sand is much easier to sink it (coarse with sea shells) than desert sand.

In this photo taken last month, I tried driving the beach at 32 psi and the truck struggled and was drifting closer to the water. I dropped to 15 psi, and see the difference... floatation achieved!

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That's why it is good to use the quote feature like you did responding to me (and me to you, here)... No confusion as to who you are addressing.

BFG All Terrain TAs are NOT used/ made for off road racing, BFG make the Baja T/A for racers... those tires are NOT sold to the public and are not for highway use.

Any tire will work in the sand if you air down enough... The worst tire I owned in sand (Cooper Discoverer STT, 3 ply sidewall) would work in the sand, but not until it was down to 10 psi or lower.

Some tires do better in the sand, and require less air removed (or none with traction control)... those are tires with light tread bite (highway tires), rounded shoulders, softer sidewalls.

I drove a friend's truck with BFG All Terrains in the sand... and they were not as friendly as other tires...

The Rugged Trails our trucks come with are better in the sand, Toyo Open Country ATs and Cooper Discoverer ATRs are good.

I look forward to your Hankook report... Try them at higher pressure than your lowered the All Terrains to... or don't deflate until you need to... then try 5 psi increments (20 psi, 15 psi, 10 psi) .

I drive the sand near Ocotillo Wells without deflating at all (TRAC), and have driven the beach south of San Felipe at full pressure in the winter,without a load in the truck. In the summer, with a load, I had to deflate... Baja gulf beach sand is much easier to sink it (coarse with sea shells) than desert sand.

In this photo taken last month, I tried driving the beach at 32 psi and the truck struggled and was drifting closer to the water. I dropped to 15 psi, and see the difference... floatation achieved!

Baja T/A's are not the only bfg tire used for offroad racing. there are a lot of trophy trucks, class 1's, 14 trucks and so-on that run bfg all terrains and even mud terrains, so get your facts straight buddy ... and your crazy if you think the stock rugged trails are better then the all terrains, thats a first.

but yea, ill report back once i see how the Hankooks do in the sand.
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My wifes Highlander has them. Thay have around 40000 on them currently and will probably go another 10 to 15000. When they were new the were very good in the rain and on the logging roads around here, but as they wore down they are not as good in the rain but still do decent on the trails. When my stock Dunlops need replacing I will be going with Toyos (M/T's not A/T's)as they seem to last very well. I will say that we rotate them every 3 to 5000 miles.
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Sure... all tires are used... depends on your racing budget and sponsor... When I raced the Baja 1000, our sponsor was Bandag, a retreading company! The tires were great, our blown Z differential wasn't!

I said the stock Rugged Trails are better IN THE SAND than All Terrains... they are, because they have a less aggressive tread and softer/ rounder sidewalls... which is what you need for floatation.

Thanks for when you report back... I am looking for new tires when I am ready to get rid of the Rugged Trails (already one flat between Coco's Corner and Laguna Chapala, with 13,000 miles on them)... I am considering the new General Grabbers, which are pretty close to the same tire developed for racing.
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Mine have 44,000 miles on them, had them siped and have made two trips to Montana & South Dakota in winter and they were great! Still have oh 5000 to 10,000 miles to go before I need new ones?!
Wow, thats quite a while

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have you considered General Grabber A/T's or BFG A/T's or even Hankook A/T's? they have have awsome traction in rain/sand compared to the Duratracs. my gf's dad has Duratracs on his Chevy and they suck ass in rain and they do nothing but dig themselves into a hole in the sand.
I have zero traction issues in the rain with my duratracs but the Open Country's sucked ass and they did great in the soft sand at the outer banks of NC aired down to 20 psi.
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Sure... all tires are used... depends on your racing budget and sponsor... When I raced the Baja 1000, our sponsor was Bandag, a retreading company! The tires were great, our blown Z differential wasn't!

I said the stock Rugged Trails are better IN THE SAND than All Terrains... they are, because they have a less aggressive tread and softer/ rounder sidewalls... which is what you need for floatation.

Thanks for when you report back... I am looking for new tires when I am ready to get rid of the Rugged Trails (already one flat between Coco's Corner and Laguna Chapala, with 13,000 miles on them)... I am considering the new General Grabbers, which are pretty close to the same tire developed for racing.
i WAS gonna go with the new Grabbers also, but when it came time to buy, 4WP said they were on back order for a while. so i went with the Hankooks. i wonder if anyone on here has managed to get a pair??
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yea my cousin has them(rcfreak201) and he likes them alot, they seem to please him.
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