Dealeship promotion involving nitrogen

surfsupl · 07-09-2008, 11:00 PM

Out here in California we have a dealership promoting their cars and trucks that are for sale as having nitrogen filled tires. Has anyone ever heard of this or done this? What are the advantages and disadvantages of doing this? Plus, this cannot be cheap to keep filled with nitrogen. I can see it as a ploy as getting you back in the dealership for servicing and charging you money for b.s. things. I think they claim that the nitrogen lasts 5 times longer in your tires that air??????????

genxer36 · 07-10-2008, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by surfsupl

Out here in California we have a dealership promoting their cars and trucks that are for sale as having nitrogen filled tires. Has anyone ever heard of this or done this? What are the advantages and disadvantages of doing this? Plus, this cannot be cheap to keep filled with nitrogen. I can see it as a ploy as getting you back in the dealership for servicing and charging you money for b.s. things. I think they claim that the nitrogen lasts 5 times longer in your tires that air??????????

Costco does this on all the tires they sell. Nitrogen doesn't expand as much as regular air when the tires get hot. Plus I never have to add air to my tires. Where when using regular air I had to add it constantly. Even if you bought from this dealer, you do not have to run nitrogen in the tires. I would not pay extra for it. It doesn't cost the dealer anything, they have a pump that makes it. Same as Costco. You won't see them with a nitrogen bottle pulling up to your vehicle ( that would be too costly).

I think Nascar uses it.

http://www.getnitrogen.org/

Quote from the website:
"Nitrogen in tires is becoming a popular replacement for standard air. Nitrogen is all around us... the air we breathe is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen and the rest is small amounts of other gasses. When it comes to tire inflation, nitrogen has many advantages over oxygen. With nitrogen tire inflation, improvements can be noted in a vehicle's handling, fuel efficiency and tire life through better tire pressure retention, improved fuel economy and cooler running tire temperatures."

Janster · 07-10-2008, 03:22 AM

That's gotta be the most stupid incentive I've ever heard.
My gawd....Give the consumer some CASH incentives. If they want nitrogen, they can get it on their own.

Sorry, not argueing the usage of Nitrogen. I'm personally not convinced it makes that much of a difference in gas savings for daily driving vehicles. Just another gas saving gimmick to lure the consumers into thinking they're gonna save tons of money on gas.

surfsupl · 07-10-2008, 08:09 AM

I agree. How about instead of nitrogen,give me some nitrous to inhale to calm my nerves for the price I just paid for this car/truck!

TACOCRAZY · 07-14-2008, 03:00 PM

Ok, the benefits of nitrogen all correctly assume that 90% or more of the people out there don't regularly check their air pressure. On the scientific level, nitro molecules are larger than other naturally occuring air molecules, and that fact prevents nitro from seeping thru the rubber, which even brand new tires will seep the smaller air molecules. Most people have their air checked at their oil change, which is usually too late and they have been running low air pressure long enough to wear their tires on the edges. They have also been suffering from poor gas mileage. As a service advisor at a Toyota dealer I recommend nitro and use it in my truck. There are some proud people who take care of their ride and know how to...including checking air pressure. Those people would not really benefit from nitro. But all the lazy people would!

05TacoTRD · 07-14-2008, 03:01 PM

My SE-R had nitrogen filled tires.

tdm156 · 07-14-2008, 03:49 PM

I have had nitrogen filled tires myself and it seems to hold pressure more consistantly but I wouldn't say its a an incentive to buy there over the next place.

genxer36 · 07-14-2008, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tdm156

I have had nitrogen filled tires myself and it seems to hold pressure more consistantly but I wouldn't say its a an incentive to buy there over the next place.

Yeah! Dealers are always trying gimmicks to make you buy from them. I had one dealer that I bought a tacoma from offer "Free Tires for Life". Of course there was a catch. You had to pay for the tires to be rotated & balanced @ every oil change, which you had to have done at that dealer. I added it up & It would have cost $1,000 for the services (by the time you would need tires). The tires would have cost $600, if you purchased them. Oh and if you missed one balance & rotate, the deal was off.

Dealers should concentrate on giving the best deal in town & not cheap gimicks. I bought a Jeep from a dealer that was like no other! (see their philosophy on their website- http://www.jasperjeep.com/MiscPage_2 )
If a Toyota dealer was like this, they would blow the competition away!

mneuls · 07-14-2008, 11:19 PM

I think the reasoning behind it is the nitrogen is pure gas, where as the air we breathe actually has a lot of moisture in it. When tire pressure increases and decreases with heat, I believe this is mostly attributed to the moisture in the tire, not the air. Where I'm from it's quite a common thing, all the tire shops can fill your tire if it is low, and if your tire is low, there is usually something wrong with it, so they take a look at it. It really does make sense, to me anyway. and it is pretty cheap, I've never paid for a fill before, the shops just do it for free.

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tdm156 Senior Member Joined: Apr 2008, #6166 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 450 2009 DC 4x4 SR5 2009 Double Cab Automatic 4.0	I have had nitrogen filled tires myself and it seems to hold pressure more consistantly but I wouldn't say its a an incentive to buy there over the next place.

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mneuls Member Joined: Jul 2008, #7836 Location: Fort St John, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 73 08 tacoma offroad pkg 6spd V6 2008 Double Cab Manual 4.0l V6	I think the reasoning behind it is the nitrogen is pure gas, where as the air we breathe actually has a lot of moisture in it. When tire pressure increases and decreases with heat, I believe this is mostly attributed to the moisture in the tire, not the air. Where I'm from it's quite a common thing, all the tire shops can fill your tire if it is low, and if your tire is low, there is usually something wrong with it, so they take a look at it. It really does make sense, to me anyway. and it is pretty cheap, I've never paid for a fill before, the shops just do it for free.