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Old 08-20-2011, 08:39 PM   #1
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Nitrogen?

Is anyone running Nitrogen in their tires and if so any luck with it?
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Old 08-20-2011, 08:41 PM   #2
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Is anyone running Nitrogen in their tires and if so any luck with it?
It doesn't really do much, if it's free giver' , if you are paying extra don't bother.
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It's a gimmick. The atmosphere we breathe (normal air) that you use in your tires is already 78% nitrogen. The only tires that truly need nitrogen is air plane tires so they don't pop when they go 40K+ feet up.

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I run ass gas in my tires.
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It doesn't really do much, if it's free giver' , if you are paying extra don't bother.
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Old 08-20-2011, 08:56 PM   #8
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hahahahaa yeah I guess ass gas is free too! Just hope im not clogged up when I get a flat.
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They say you get better mpg's and longer tread life running Nitrogen. Idk though haven't talked to many people that run it.
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Going from 78% (normal air) to ~90% nitrogen in your tire isn't going to make much of a difference.

@Crom: the reason airplane tires are inflated with nitrogen is to reduce the likelihood of a fire after a tire blowout. Hot brakes + oxygen + chemical outgassing from the tire + severed hydraulic line...
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Going from 78% (normal air) to ~90% nitrogen in your tire isn't going to make much of a difference.

@Crom: the reason airplane tires are inflated with nitrogen is to reduce the likelihood of a fire after a tire blowout. Hot brakes + oxygen + chemical outgassing from the tire + severed hydraulic line...
I've never heard that before. But as it turns out I did some reading and we are both correct.

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In addition, Boeing has received reports of three confirmed cases and other suspected cases in which a wheel/tire assembly exploded when the oxygen in air-filled tires combined with volatile gases given off by a severely overheated tire. In one case, the tire became overheated as a result of a dragging brake, and the wheel/tire assembly exploded when it reached the auto-ignition temperature. In another case, a wheel/tire assembly explosion in the wheel well during flight was suspected in the catastrophic loss of one airplane. A similar explosion caused severe damage to two others.
As a result, the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration issued Airworthiness Directive 87-08-09 requiring that only nitrogen be used to inflate airplane tires on braked wheels. However, tires may be topped off with air in remote locations where nitrogen may not be available if the oxygen content in the tire does not exceed 5 percent by volume.
http://boeing.com/commercial/aeromag...ly/m03txt.html
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yeah im seeing more and more threads and topics online about it but wasnt sure on gains in truck tires. At least no one was wrong, LOL!
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Yes, as Crom said... I use 78% nitrogen in my tires!
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It's a gimmick. The atmosphere we breathe (normal air) that you use in your tires is already 78% nitrogen. The only tires that truly need nitrogen is air plane tires so they don't pop when they go 40K+ feet up.

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If they are going to pop at alitude it doesn't matter what air is in them. Pressure difference doesn't care about air composition they just care about it providing oxygen for fire after it blows.
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You've convinced me bud, thanks
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normal air is effected by tempature and nitrogen is not. I run HOT air in Texas (78%)
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Airplanes put N2 in the tires because it has no moisture or oil init like regular compressed air would. At the altitudes the planes fly, any contaminants in the tire would freeze. When the plane lands, the sudden impact of the tire hitting the ground would heat everything and the tire would blow out, thus resulting in a crash. Also the expansion and contraction of the molecules are more uniform than a mixed gas.

The reason you would put N2 in a personal vehicle is to reduce the chance of fluid friction of the moisture in the air that could wear and cause corrosion on the inside of the tire and rim. O2 is a corrosive, and mixed with other impurities speeds up the process. People have been putting regular compressed air in their tires for a long time without a problem. But if you can get N2 for free, go for it. The next best thing is airing up with compressed air that has a moisture separator in the line.
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normal air is effected by tempature and nitrogen is not. I run HOT air in Texas (78%)
Not entirely true. The water in the air is what causes the temp change. If you have an air dryer on your compressor (or the shop that fills your tires), then the air wont expand oir contract as much. I've been testing this out on my comp.. I only have to make psi changes maybe once a year.....if that.
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O2 "permeates" approximately 3-4 times faster than does N2 through a typical rubber, as is used in tires, primarily
because O2 has a slightly smaller effective molecular size than does N2.

http://www.getnitrogen.org/pdf/graham.pdf
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