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Old 12-16-2012, 10:00 AM   #1
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I am getting ready to buy some tires for my 2013 Tacoma. The truck will have a full 3" lift and new TRD forged alloy 17" wheels. I am looking for something all around but not necessarily all terrain as I like the more aggressive looking tires. The three I am considering are the Nitto trail grappler, Toyo MTs, or Goodyear duratrec. Price is not a huge issue I just want a solid tire that will ride well on the pavement, but still perform off road. Also i wanted to make sure my sizes are correct. With a 3" ultimate lift kit from toytec.com and 17" TRD wheels, i was looking at a 285/70/17. I understand that that tire wheel and lift combination would t need any spacers or offset and should be a good fit with out rub. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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I am getting ready to buy some tires for my 2013 Tacoma. The truck will have a full 3" lift and new TRD forged alloy 17" wheels. I am looking for something all around but not necessarily all terrain as I like the more aggressive looking tires. The three I am considering are the Nitto trail grappler, Toyo MTs, or Goodyear duratrec. Price is not a huge issue I just want a solid tire that will ride well on the pavement, but still perform off road. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!
Might i add to your list the Hankook Dynapro MT
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DuraTracs........close the thread!
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:33 AM   #5
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Size is good???
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My trail grapplers are great on and off road... only negative is weight. You will need spacers, trimming, and cab mount chop with factory TRD rims. What are your proposed wheel specs?
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My trail grapplers are great on and off road... only negative is weight. You will need spacers, trimming, and cab mount chop with factory TRD rims. What are your proposed wheel specs?
Really, I will need all that for some 285/70/17 tires with a full 3" suspension lift?
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Lift only changes how much compression till it rubs. It has no effect on what needs trimming and what does not. If you dont have 4.5ish inch backspace you need spacers. Yes you need all that. I run 285/70R17 Nitto Trail Grapplers. I thought I had the rubbing stopped till I wheeled at Hidden Falls... tiny bit more to trim still.

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Found I needed to trim to the top bulge/shelf above that bolt... this was early in the trim game.
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What size would I be able to use without trimming? And is there a specific size spacer I should use or any recommendations?
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What size would I be able to use without trimming? And is there a specific size spacer I should use or any recommendations?
I've also been wondering the same thing. If I lift my truck 3 inches, can I put 33's without rubbing if I purchase new rims? If so, what kind of rims would I need?
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32's are a pretty safe bet when it comes to rubbing... im looking into 265/75R16's for my taco... or 265/70R17 for a 17" rim. also, smaller backspacing... i know stock backspacing for my truck is about 4.5. smaller backspacing = sticks out farther and can maybe avoid the cab mount chop. of course you can also go for a 1.25" or so wheel spacer... Lots of people tend to go away from those, but i havent heard too many people actually having problems because of them.
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I've also been wondering the same thing. If I lift my truck 3 inches, can I put 33's without rubbing if I purchase new rims? If so, what kind of rims would I need?
Read my post... no you can't.
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What size would I be able to use without trimming? And is there a specific size spacer I should use or any recommendations?
China made wheels are cheap and accept your factory TPMS. Buy some 17x9 4.5" backspace wheels... 99% of wheels are made in China and $150 or less if you look hard. To not cut you gotta go 265/75R17 or similar. Don't waste money on expensive wheels. Just accept needing to cut a lil... its not a big deal. Just know what to cut beforehand.
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I called 4wheelparts just shopping for answers, and the dude said I should have absolutely no rubbing and no need to trim with a 285/70/17 with the forged alloy TRD wheel. Quite the contrary to what members are saying on here. Anyways I am wondering if it is worth having to trim and fabricate on a brand new truck to run these wide tires. If its just grinding a little plastic off the wheel wells I think so. If it comes to cutting into the cab mount or anything else I would just have to do the dinky 265/70/17 I guess.
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just put a three inch body lift and a two leveling kit on my 2011 tacoma running 33 inch goodyears on 17x9 xd rims. had to trim mud flaps only that is what was rubbing.
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You can also perhaps look into toytec's 1" body lift for a little extra clearance. I'm going to go try on some used 33's soon. My gf's step dad just bought new tires for his f-250. There isn't much tread on them but it'll be a good idea of how 33's will fit plus a little bit for the extra tread
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I called 4wheelparts just shopping for answers, and the dude said I should have absolutely no rubbing and no need to trim with a 285/70/17 with the forged alloy TRD wheel. Quite the contrary to what members are saying on here. Anyways I am wondering if it is worth having to trim and fabricate on a brand new truck to run these wide tires. If its just grinding a little plastic off the wheel wells I think so. If it comes to cutting into the cab mount or anything else I would just have to do the dinky 265/70/17 I guess.
What are those wheel specs? I keep asking for them. The guy at 4wp is likely clueless. They would not even reinstall my rear bump stops because they "don't do fabrication or cutting" outside a few specific drop bracket lifts they sell. They are not informed on this truck... I have the tires you are considering. I am sharing my experience, not my opinion. When you turn the wheel and the suspension compresses, you will get tire to contact the cab mount. My question is why you and others are so scared of a cab mount chop? It is far less invasive than changing tire size, installing a drop bracket lift, welding on sliders, or many other things people don't second guess. Its not like it has a negative effect on structural integrity, resale value, warranty, or anything else. It is so easy I did it myself and so cheap to pay someone yo do with BAMF plates if you are afraid of welding... why is it not a consideration?
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