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Old 01-13-2013, 12:47 AM   #1
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Angry Help,what to do? Rubbing tires. Trimming ok???

I just had BFG 285-65-18 KO tires and BMF Novacane Death Metal Wheels 18 installed on my 2013 Tacoma DBL cab 2wd. I also did a Max Trac Susp 2.5" front 1" rear lift.
I wish I would have found this site before I had the work done. I trusted the experience of a local place that has been around 40 years.

Basically I went in knowing the wheels I wanted and that I also wanted BFG All Terrain tires. The guy there did the tire calculations and selected the lift. I really should have done more research but I went with what they said was best for the truck. I do not plan on doing any off roading. I just like the look of a lift with bigger tires and fancy wheels.

They finished Friday and I drove it home. Only to notice that I have some tire rubbing when I am turning. It looks like bottom of the fender wells could almost puncture the tires. When the tire is completely turned, you can barely put a finger between the tire and fender well. There is also a horrible sound when the truck dips and drives over low spots. When I called them, they said they could trim the fender wells where it is rubbing. They said that most lifts need some trimming. Is this a normal/acceptable way to handle the situation or should they be putting different size tires on my truck. What are my rights? Are they going to charge me more money if I ask for different size tires and wheels now? What should I be asking for? This is my first truck. Thanks in advance for replying to my post.
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trimming seems to be the way most handle problems with rubbing.
i would say they wont let you return tires for different ones since you have driven in them.
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I'm distressed by the fact that they said this would work with your truck and it clearly does not, not that it can't, it usually can with some modification. You have two choices as i see it, take the truck back and raise hell, make them give you a set that fits your truck without rubbing or get the trimming done. I wouldn't take it back to those people though, I'd be pissed myself. Perhaps some SoCal members can chime in and help you out.

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I'm distressed by the fact that they said this would work with your truck and it clearly does not, not that it can't, it usually can with some modification. You have two choices as i see it, take the truck back and raise hell, make them give you a set that fits your truck without rubbing or get the trimming done. I wouldn't take it back to those people though, I'd be pissed myself. Perhaps some SoCal members can chime in and help you out.

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yea i would suggest getting on the socal bs thread and finding some one local to check it out and help you with the rubbing problem most of us had to do trimming on our truck at one point.
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Trim cut chop. Sucks cutting up your truck but dont you wanna keep your big tires? Do you rub the cab mount?
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yea i would suggest getting on the socal bs thread and finding some one local to check it out and help you with the rubbing problem most of us had to do trimming on our truck at one point.
Those are huge fuckin tires for these trucks! Even with a 2 1/2 inch spacer lift, it's still huge, very least the flaps have to go, probably some of that interior plastic pieces on the cabin side of the wheel well. Not sure if she would need a cab mount chop.
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Those are huge fuckin tires for these trucks! Even with a 2 1/2 inch spacer lift, it's still huge, very least the flaps have to go, probably some of that interior plastic pieces on the cabin side of the wheel well. Not sure if she would need a cab mount chop.
Just a hair smaller than 285/70/17
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Those are huge fuckin tires for these trucks! Even with a 2 1/2 inch spacer lift, it's still huge, very least the flaps have to go, probably some of that interior plastic pieces on the cabin side of the wheel well. Not sure if she would need a cab mount chop.
only 32 1/2 tires basically shouldnt need to do that much just plastics...
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Just a hair smaller than 285/70/17
ok, thought they were bigger, still that's beyond what you can stuff in there without trimming, that shop jacked her on those wheels. They knew that shit would rub and then fucked her off over the phone, that's bush league.
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I'd say 50% of the people on this forum have had to trim....easy fix. And as Blake mentioned above....there's alot of SoCal members on here that I'm sure would gladly look at it & help with the trimming.
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Thanks for the replies

They took off the mud flaps before I picked it up. I think the plastic pieces, cabin side of the wheel well will definitely need to go. Also, it looks like some of the black paint has rubbed off deep inside the wheel well...don't know what that area is called. It might be the cab mount. If there is rubbing on the cab mount, then what?


I guess I will have it trimmed. I do not really want a higher lift.
I'm going to ask the guy to test drive it with me so he can see and hear where and when it rubs before trimming. Is that how I should do it?
Open to suggestions.
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They took off the mud flaps before I picked it up. I think the plastic pieces, cabin side of the wheel well will definitely need to go. Also, it looks like some of the black paint has rubbed off deep inside the wheel well...don't know what that area is called. It might be the cab mount. If there is rubbing on the cab mount, then what?


I guess I will have it trimmed. I do not really want a higher lift.
I'm going to ask the guy to test drive it with me so he can see and hear where and when it rubs before trimming. Is that how I should do it?
Open to suggestions.
Ok, click on the link I put in here: http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd...ight=cab+mount
It shows the area were most set ups are likely to rub, look at the pics and see if that matches what you are seeing on your truck then we can figure out what to do next, there are members all over Socal that can help you, i wouldn't take it back to the shop ESPECIALLY if those turkeys want to charge you more money for what they should have avoided in the first place.
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Smile CMC tutorial

Thank you sooooooo much for posting that CMC tutorial. I will look at my truck tomorrow and see. But at least I know if I do need to have a cab mount chop then I'll make sure they cut, weld new plates and paint it black making sure not to burn up surrounding rubber pieces. There is rubbing on both the fender and wheel wells.

I don't mind a little trim at the bottom of the fender well and the inside wall underneath the glove box area looks like it might need to be notched and maybe the cab mount..... but I do not want the truck to look all chopped up. I'm going to make sure they weld a filler piece or plate and not leave it open. It's my daily driver, brand new and I want to keep it looking nice and clean not like a homemade craft project.

First though I going to ask him why he order such huge tires? I'm going to tell him that I would like smaller tires and to find another BFG that fits the 18 inch rims but fits better on the truck with no rubbing.

Secondly I would like to know why he didn't discuss trimming before I drove away? I mean, I'm sure this is not an isolated incident. So why was nothing said ? I won't pay for the trim or CMC if I need that. I will ask them to absorb that cost since they ordered such huge tires.

I know you said not to go back to that place, but I feel that they are responsible to fix their mistakes. That way they have done all of the work, the lift, tires, wheels, locks, trimming....so that in the future if I have any problems with the truck....they are the only ones who have modified it and they can not blame anyone else. Of course if they don't weld and just plan on trimming with and exacto knife, I wont have them do it. What do you think about that?

This time I will be more informed...just a little late though.

Thank you again for the CMC video link. Good nite.
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only 32 1/2 tires basically shouldnt need to do that much just plastics...
Unless the wheels have an aggresive offset. I had to do the CMC and alot of trimming to avoid rubbing during normal driving with my 285/70/17 and 2.5" of lift

Edit: ruled that one out. I looked up the wheels and found 5" backspacing. Holy balls those wheels arnt cheap.

Girlraisedintexas. Ask the shop about the wheel specs, the backspacing and offset can lead to more rubbing, and i am not sure i found the right info on the 5" backspacing.
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Thank you sooooooo much for posting that CMC tutorial. I will look at my truck tomorrow and see. But at least I know if I do need to have a cab mount chop then I'll make sure they cut, weld new plates and paint it black making sure not to burn up surrounding rubber pieces. There is rubbing on both the fender and wheel wells.

I don't mind a little trim at the bottom of the fender well and the inside wall underneath the glove box area looks like it might need to be notched and maybe the cab mount..... but I do not want the truck to look all chopped up. I'm going to make sure they weld a filler piece or plate and not leave it open. It's my daily driver, brand new and I want to keep it looking nice and clean not like a homemade craft project.

First though I going to ask him why he order such huge tires? I'm going to tell him that I would like smaller tires and to find another BFG that fits the 18 inch rims but fits better on the truck with no rubbing.

Secondly I would like to know why he didn't discuss trimming before I drove away? I mean, I'm sure this is not an isolated incident. So why was nothing said ? I won't pay for the trim or CMC if I need that. I will ask them to absorb that cost since they ordered such huge tires.

I know you said not to go back to that place, but I feel that they are responsible to fix their mistakes. That way they have done all of the work, the lift, tires, wheels, locks, trimming....so that in the future if I have any problems with the truck....they are the only ones who have modified it and they can not blame anyone else. Of course if they don't weld and just plan on trimming with and exacto knife, I wont have them do it. What do you think about that?

This time I will be more informed...just a little late though.

Thank you again for the CMC video link. Good nite.
The CMC thing is probably not something most shops would do, it's a mod that us toyota folks came up with. If in fact you need to do that you'd want to reach out to your local TW members for that. Most shops would just stare stupidly at you if you asked for that. There is a plastic bracket that holds the mud flap they took off, make sure that bracket is gone as well. At 2.5 high i shouldn't think you should need the CMC but I wanted you to see if it is the same area that is rubbing on your truck. Please keep us posted on this and good luck
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It might be a good idea to bring a male friend with you when you go.
Sad to say a lot of these places still take advantage of females.
I'm sure you could get a knowledgeable SoCal TW member to go with you if you need one to or have one check it out before you go to see what needs to be done.
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It might be a good idea to bring a male friend with you when you go.
Sad to say a lot of these places still take advantage of females.
I'm sure you could get a knowledgeable SoCal TW member to go with you if you need one to or have one check it out before you go to see what needs to be done.
Post some pics of your truck, good luck getting this fixed.
I was thinkin the same thing, i think it would be good to get an experienced member to look at it at least before she goes back
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Help is on the way. Posted in 3 SoCal threads.
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GirlRaisedInTexas (but living in SoCal) needs help with 285s rubbing.
She needs someone with expreience to check out & fix her problem.
If you can help her thread is http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/wheels-tires/257848-help-what-do-rubbing-tires-trimming-ok.html
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