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Opinions on rotating MT/R's?

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by License2Ill, Sep 9, 2014.

  1. Sep 9, 2014 at 9:32 PM
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    License2Ill

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    Since they're classified as asymmetrical, obviously & unadmittedly directional tires. :rolleyes:

    What's the best course of action in rotating them?

    Front to back? Then left to right? Then repeat?
     
  2. Sep 9, 2014 at 9:51 PM
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    They are asymmetrical tires, NOT really a directional. If you look at the tires, it will say "THIS SIDE OUTBOARD" They are still a radial tire, so you can rotate them side to side. When you move the wheel and tire to the other side, it will still be "OUTBOARD" and just fine. I had them on my... uuhhmmm.... Jeep... and rotated them every other oil change. Never had an issue with them... matter of fact I have a brand new set sitting on my SCS SR8's waiting for me to install my Icon kit! So... rotate them any way you like... some were taught side to side, some front to back, some in and X pattern (RT front to LF rear, and LF front to RT rear) I will say, I am no expert, (at anything) so maybe someone will teach the best rotation method for the Taco!
     
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    I have to rotate mine every 1500 miles or they feather. Hate these things....
     
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    I've always rotated any MT tire front to back.....no crossing.
     
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    I rotate mine every 5000 miles.

    they're not a directional tire. I use the standard "rearward cross" rotation pattern.

    Now that I have a full size matching spare on the tire gate - I include it in the tire rotation.
     
  6. Sep 13, 2014 at 9:12 AM
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    Okay. Thanks for the replies!

    Anyone have any more input?

    And we'll have to agree to disagree on the directional issue. There is an obvious "V" in the middle of the tread pattern. On the pass. side the V is facing towards the front of the vehicle and opposite on the drivers side. Oh and the pull to the right that mysteriously happened once the tires were installed. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Sep 14, 2014 at 5:29 PM
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    There is. The tires are obviously not symetrical.

    However, a directional tire is a non symetric tire that's supplied from the tire factory with two separate designs, one for the left side of the vehicle and one for the right side. These tires have an arrow indicating the direction of rotation; and they therefore can only be rotated forward/back while staying on the same side of the vehicle so the rotation arrow remains correct. Goodyear only supplies one style of MT/R which is to be used on both the left and right side of the vehicle.

    I've had more Goodyear tires (on other vehicles) develop a directional pull over time... :annoyed: but never the MT/Rs so far.

    If I had brand new tires give me a pull the day I bought 'em - I'd take 'em back.
     
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    Okay, they made a asymmetrical directional tire but only made one mold for the drivers side. :rolleyes:

    I've rotated them already, had the alignment guys get my specs just how I'd like and still a pull to the right. Had the alignment guys redo the alignment. Still a pull. And they're quite a few posts in various forums describing the right-handed pull.
     
  9. Sep 14, 2014 at 9:36 PM
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    Yeah that sounds like a tire pull to me.

    All I can think of is try a different tire rotation; and if you get one that doesn't pull, stick with it. If the tires wear out early, at least you're rid of them.

    If you've got a good relationship with the tire dealer - maybe they'll warranty replace the tire? It's not clear to me how long you've had them. The info below may be helpful generally, and suggests that a tire warranty replacement can occur when a pull is first diagnosed immediately after the first time the tires are rotated.

    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=12
     
  10. Sep 14, 2014 at 9:59 PM
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    Yeah, changing up the rotation pattern may help (I'll give it a try). But It's a common compliant with these tires; pulling to the right. And two different tires being mounted in the same position causing the same effect? It's possible. But with the same issue delated from dozens of other people throughout the years? I'd bet the issue relates on the R & L opposing tread design.

    They're a month old. A little over 200 mi. They're all covered under warranty.

    But the steering correction needed for the pull isn't even that big a deal afaic.
     

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